• @dreugeworst@lemmy.ml
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    65 months ago

    If so, those were magnificent own goals. Ukraine wasn’t going to join nato until the little green men showed up, and Sweden and Finland didn’t want to join nato until the full scale invasion. Nato was languishing before all this happened, now they’re re-arming.

    • @Dogyote@slrpnk.net
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      15 months ago

      You’re mostly right, but in the interest of accuracy: Ukraine was making moves to join NATO way back in 2008, (possibly because of Russia’s invasion of Georgia) but plans were put on hold when pro-Russian Viktor Yanukovych was president. Once a coup kicked him out of office and Russia seized Crimea, NATO membership became a high priority.

          • @0xD
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            15 months ago

            Ask Russians or their braindead boot lickers and it’s a coup - ask the people there fighting for their own country and against russification and it’s a revolution ;)

            • @Dogyote@slrpnk.net
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              15 months ago

              It was an overthrow of a democratically elected president. Not every Ukrainian was happy about it, obviously, since some Ukrainians were/are fighting the revolutionaries.

            • @Dogyote@slrpnk.net
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              05 months ago

              Uh huh. If Trump’s people succeed on Jan 6th would it be a revolution or a coup? I’ll go with whichever you answer.