• @assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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    45 months ago

    I’m not necessarily against legalizing other drugs, but I would need a lot of time to research it and understand what studies have been done. There’s some substances which are outright harmful and people shouldn’t take, and I don’t think criminalization is the solution. But, I also don’t know that complete legalization is.

    Off the cuff, I think I’d support decriminalized possession, but the material is still confiscated. Manufacturing however should remain illegal (other than for weed) because it’s way too easy to make snake oil and impurities. I’d favor official govt meth versus making manufacturing it legal.

      • Ann Archy
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        15 months ago

        Do you know what the first legal government meth was?

        Meth.

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            5 months ago

            Hm? Widen your scope of semantic salience my friend, I do say something different, but that’s just academia, don’t take it too seriously it’s not a challenge.

    • Ann Archy
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      35 months ago

      I mean we know people will do it regardless, no matter the substance. Substances are being thoroughly tested, and finally seeing serious academic and clinical research on their therapeutic uses, so that is actually going pretty great and showing awesome results (yeyy drugs!!), and I will never get over the argument that prohibition only strengthens the mafia.

      • @assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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        25 months ago

        Yeah you really cut out the leg from cartels if you get rid of prohibition.

        I think as long as we can positively ID a substance as coming from a safe manufacturer, it’s fine. Street products cooked up in a trailer are what need to go away. That probably means the government subsidizes drug companies to provide them at low cost.

        • Ann Archy
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          15 months ago

          Fuck it manufacture it in government labs, make it taxable. How could that possibly ever be worse than the street wars we have right now?

            • Ann Archy
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              15 months ago

              Look, we can’t be adjusting our ideas to take morons into account, one has to have a clear image before one’s eyes want one want to achieve, or it ain’t gonna get beyond the idea stage.

              Is this what we want? Is this what I want? Fuck yes, so we can fight for that, it is well defined and without bullshit, that’s a platform easy to defend, you know what I mean? Don’t give a shit what some would think or say, wars are not won by appeasing the enemy.

              • @assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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                15 months ago

                Oh I agree completely, I’m just saying the first battle in the war is triumphing over the GOP. It’s more a logical first step than a necessary one. We don’t have to give any quarter, just recognize which battles we need to face and what milestones we need to achieve.

    • Kusuriya
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      25 months ago

      you know all of those “illegal” drugs are legal if you have enough money? There isn’t a single “illegal” drug that you cant get as long as someone slaps like a Pfizer, Novo Nordisk, or Bayer label on it and signs their name to say you can have it. Prohibition doesn’t work, we have a lot of history to show that, we also have a lot of history to know that treatment, rehabilitation, and social safety nets go a really long way towards stopping addiction and substance abuse.

    • skrufimonki
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      All you need to do is look at Portland Oregon. We decriminalized possession with Measure 110 and everyone rejoiced. Now most people are done with it. Used paraphernalia every where, homelessness everywhere. (Yeah I know housing prices is the major factor). Crime… Fuck me. The amount of people that have been “assisted” with their drug habits are dismal. In part due to government hindering the financial support. The major part is the lack of desire from users wanting to be saved. ( This is the alternative to jailing of persons) Decriminalization of possession of hard drugs was/is a major fail here. Just my anecdotal “research”.