President Joe Biden stands to make significant political gains if marijuana is rescheduled under his administrative directive, according to a new survey that reveals majority support for the reform. It also found that marijuana enjoys greater favorability with voters compared to Biden and former President Donald Trump. The poll conducted by Lake Research Partners and […]
Maybe for weed, but I don’t think that would be so clear cut for other substances. Even here San Francisco, the public is only willing to go so far with decriminalizing.
I would wager that weed, and maybe certain hallucinations would be bump in the polls, but for narcotics and opioids, ending the war on that stuff would hurt him. But maybe I’m wrong.
Ending it would involve more than lel drugs are legal have fun. It would be a shift to focus on treatment, rehabilitation, and prevention by treating social deficits that tend to breed addiction, those are proven consistently effective treatments. If prohibition ever worked we wouldn’t have weed, alcohol, and coke would sell completely caffeine free beverages.
I’m not necessarily against legalizing other drugs, but I would need a lot of time to research it and understand what studies have been done. There’s some substances which are outright harmful and people shouldn’t take, and I don’t think criminalization is the solution. But, I also don’t know that complete legalization is.
Off the cuff, I think I’d support decriminalized possession, but the material is still confiscated. Manufacturing however should remain illegal (other than for weed) because it’s way too easy to make snake oil and impurities. I’d favor official govt meth versus making manufacturing it legal.
I mean we know people will do it regardless, no matter the substance. Substances are being thoroughly tested, and finally seeing serious academic and clinical research on their therapeutic uses, so that is actually going pretty great and showing awesome results (yeyy drugs!!), and I will never get over the argument that prohibition only strengthens the mafia.
Yeah you really cut out the leg from cartels if you get rid of prohibition.
I think as long as we can positively ID a substance as coming from a safe manufacturer, it’s fine. Street products cooked up in a trailer are what need to go away. That probably means the government subsidizes drug companies to provide them at low cost.
Look, we can’t be adjusting our ideas to take morons into account, one has to have a clear image before one’s eyes want one want to achieve, or it ain’t gonna get beyond the idea stage.
Is this what we want? Is this what I want? Fuck yes, so we can fight for that, it is well defined and without bullshit, that’s a platform easy to defend, you know what I mean? Don’t give a shit what some would think or say, wars are not won by appeasing the enemy.
Oh I agree completely, I’m just saying the first battle in the war is triumphing over the GOP. It’s more a logical first step than a necessary one. We don’t have to give any quarter, just recognize which battles we need to face and what milestones we need to achieve.
Hm? Widen your scope of semantic salience my friend, I do say something different, but that’s just academia, don’t take it too seriously it’s not a challenge.
you know all of those “illegal” drugs are legal if you have enough money? There isn’t a single “illegal” drug that you cant get as long as someone slaps like a Pfizer, Novo Nordisk, or Bayer label on it and signs their name to say you can have it.
Prohibition doesn’t work, we have a lot of history to show that, we also have a lot of history to know that treatment, rehabilitation, and social safety nets go a really long way towards stopping addiction and substance abuse.
All you need to do is look at Portland Oregon. We decriminalized possession with Measure 110 and everyone rejoiced. Now most people are done with it. Used paraphernalia every where, homelessness everywhere. (Yeah I know housing prices is the major factor). Crime… Fuck me. The amount of people that have been “assisted” with their drug habits are dismal. In part due to government hindering the financial support. The major part is the lack of desire from users wanting to be saved. ( This is the alternative to jailing of persons) Decriminalization of possession of hard drugs was/is a major fail here. Just my anecdotal “research”.
I can’t even fathom the rationalization process going on with you folks with the fent and other substances, it really looks like a dystopian Ridley Scott shot when you look at it from the other side of the Atlantic…
You’re right, it was wrong to make fun of an incredibly comic figure. Doing so clearly means that I’ve never voted for a Democrat and that I want Biden to lose. Certainly can’t be that I’ve consistently voted for dems in every election since turning 18 yet think their failures still deserve to be mocked. Good insight 👏
Maybe for weed, but I don’t think that would be so clear cut for other substances. Even here San Francisco, the public is only willing to go so far with decriminalizing.
I would wager that weed, and maybe certain hallucinations would be bump in the polls, but for narcotics and opioids, ending the war on that stuff would hurt him. But maybe I’m wrong.
Ending it would involve more than lel drugs are legal have fun. It would be a shift to focus on treatment, rehabilitation, and prevention by treating social deficits that tend to breed addiction, those are proven consistently effective treatments. If prohibition ever worked we wouldn’t have weed, alcohol, and coke would sell completely caffeine free beverages.
I’m not necessarily against legalizing other drugs, but I would need a lot of time to research it and understand what studies have been done. There’s some substances which are outright harmful and people shouldn’t take, and I don’t think criminalization is the solution. But, I also don’t know that complete legalization is.
Off the cuff, I think I’d support decriminalized possession, but the material is still confiscated. Manufacturing however should remain illegal (other than for weed) because it’s way too easy to make snake oil and impurities. I’d favor official govt meth versus making manufacturing it legal.
I mean we know people will do it regardless, no matter the substance. Substances are being thoroughly tested, and finally seeing serious academic and clinical research on their therapeutic uses, so that is actually going pretty great and showing awesome results (yeyy drugs!!), and I will never get over the argument that prohibition only strengthens the mafia.
Yeah you really cut out the leg from cartels if you get rid of prohibition.
I think as long as we can positively ID a substance as coming from a safe manufacturer, it’s fine. Street products cooked up in a trailer are what need to go away. That probably means the government subsidizes drug companies to provide them at low cost.
Fuck it manufacture it in government labs, make it taxable. How could that possibly ever be worse than the street wars we have right now?
Agreed. For that to be politically viable though we need to first render Republicans impotent.
Look, we can’t be adjusting our ideas to take morons into account, one has to have a clear image before one’s eyes want one want to achieve, or it ain’t gonna get beyond the idea stage.
Is this what we want? Is this what I want? Fuck yes, so we can fight for that, it is well defined and without bullshit, that’s a platform easy to defend, you know what I mean? Don’t give a shit what some would think or say, wars are not won by appeasing the enemy.
Oh I agree completely, I’m just saying the first battle in the war is triumphing over the GOP. It’s more a logical first step than a necessary one. We don’t have to give any quarter, just recognize which battles we need to face and what milestones we need to achieve.
You know that there’s government legal meth, right?
Its brand name is Desoxyn.
Do you know what the first legal government meth was?
Meth.
Desoxyn is literally a brand name for methamphetamine, so you’re not saying anything different.
Hm? Widen your scope of semantic salience my friend, I do say something different, but that’s just academia, don’t take it too seriously it’s not a challenge.
you know all of those “illegal” drugs are legal if you have enough money? There isn’t a single “illegal” drug that you cant get as long as someone slaps like a Pfizer, Novo Nordisk, or Bayer label on it and signs their name to say you can have it. Prohibition doesn’t work, we have a lot of history to show that, we also have a lot of history to know that treatment, rehabilitation, and social safety nets go a really long way towards stopping addiction and substance abuse.
All you need to do is look at Portland Oregon. We decriminalized possession with Measure 110 and everyone rejoiced. Now most people are done with it. Used paraphernalia every where, homelessness everywhere. (Yeah I know housing prices is the major factor). Crime… Fuck me. The amount of people that have been “assisted” with their drug habits are dismal. In part due to government hindering the financial support. The major part is the lack of desire from users wanting to be saved. ( This is the alternative to jailing of persons) Decriminalization of possession of hard drugs was/is a major fail here. Just my anecdotal “research”.
I can’t even fathom the rationalization process going on with you folks with the fent and other substances, it really looks like a dystopian Ridley Scott shot when you look at it from the other side of the Atlantic…
Edit: I mean, we’re feeling with you homie
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Yeah and Biden could really use a bump
But enough about Hunter
I’m voting for Hunter Biden for president, because he is the politician that I support.
You’re right, it was wrong to make fun of an incredibly comic figure. Doing so clearly means that I’ve never voted for a Democrat and that I want Biden to lose. Certainly can’t be that I’ve consistently voted for dems in every election since turning 18 yet think their failures still deserve to be mocked. Good insight 👏
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