I saw a good article on c/upliftingnews about AI improving traffic signal controllers. It’s good and all, I just can’t help but think of the “look at what they need to have a fraction of our power” meme while reading it

  • @Isoprenoid@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    Yes, but you don’t need lights if there are only bikes. Lights are there to prevent heavy vehicles from colliding. If there are no heavy vehicles, then the lights aren’t needed.

    • Pietson
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      168 months ago

      Also since bikes take up less space more can cross in the same time

    • jungle
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      48 months ago

      So you’re ok with getting hit by another bike (or several) when you go through an intersection.

      Unless you live in a small town, if everyone used bikes, city centre intersections would be mostly mountains of crashed bikes and people trying to get out of that mess while more bikes continue to pile on.

        • jungle
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          -88 months ago

          I couldn’t watch the first video, all I see is an ad. The second video is not an intersection.

          That said, a roundabout does solve the issue, both for cars and bicycles.

          • @Mausbiber@lemmy.world
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            118 months ago

            Just reload and watch the video. Humans evolved for that speed, which is the reason we don’t need traffic lights to avoid people bouncing into each other in busy pedestrian areas. The same translates well for bicycles.

            Only once we start putting tons of metal around us, allow for super fast acceleration, and isolate ourselves from our surroundings by blocking view and and sounds, this becomes an issue.

            • jungle
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              -98 months ago

              So you’re saying bikes going at 30 km/h are the same as people walking. Got it.

              • @frostbiker@lemmy.ca
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                108 months ago

                People biking at scramble intersections do not ride at 30Kph. Acting in good faith helps maintaining a friendly discussion.

                  • @yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee
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                    18 months ago

                    Yes, after you repeatedly spewed bullshit about things you have never experienced in your life, and when people helpfully handed you videos that explain things you insisted it wouldn’t show what it shows (and yes, that is an intersection in the second video).

                    Just stop trolling and talking out of your ass and you won’t get downvoted. Easy, huh?

              • @yetAnotherUser@feddit.de
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                18 months ago

                The average speed of bicycles is roughly 20 km/h:

                The average travelling speed in Copenhagen is 15.5 km/h for cyclists and 27 km/hour for cars. In places with green wave for cyclist the average speed is 20.72 km/h.

                Source (2013)

      • @maynarkh@feddit.nl
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        178 months ago

        I live in the Netherlands. There are so many bikes there is traffic jams out of bikes, there are piles of bikes everywhere.

        No, you don’t need traffic lights for bikes, only if there are high speed heavy vehicles. I wouldn’t even say it’s just the heaviness, it’s the heaviness coupled with speed that makes them necessary.

        • jungle
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          38 months ago

          Ok, I need to experience this myself, but I’ll take your word for it.

          I was just thinking of the normal speed I cycle at when going to work, which is 25 - 30 km/h, and can’t imagine that not causing issues on intersections if there were no red lights.

          Of course the answer is to slow down at intersections :)