• @enki@lemm.ee
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      1210 months ago

      Where did you read this nonsense? The COVID vaccines are FAR more effective at preventing illness and death than the flu shot. The things we learned about mRNA vaccines made for COVID will be used to improve the flu shot and other vaccines in the future. There is quite literally no reasonable argument against the vaccines. They’re extremely safe and extremely effective.

      • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        110 months ago

        There is quite literally no reasonable argument against the vaccines.

        I’m not making one.

        I’m arguing the continued need for masks to inhibit spread and further development to protect the very old and very young who can’t benefit from them.

    • Ghostalmedia
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      410 months ago

      Like annual flu shots, the covid shot are freaking amazing at keeping people alive and out of the hospital. Do the ensure that you won’t get sick? No. The point is to reduce severity and spread.

      • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        110 months ago

        Do the ensure that you won’t get sick? No.

        Plenty of vaccines do. More R&D is needed. Masking, particularly during new outbreaks is needed.

    • @DarkWasp@lemmy.world
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      410 months ago

      This simply isn’t true, they’re extremely effective at preventing serious illness and death. Variants came along that stressed them but the main purpose of those two things has stood firm.

      • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        210 months ago

        they’re extremely effective at preventing serious illness and death

        But underwhelming at preventing infection and spread, particularly for newer variants.

        Which is why further R&D needs to continue. And people still need to mask up if they want to avoid contributing to contagion.

    • HeartyBeast
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      310 months ago

      The Covid vaccines were really very effective against the original strains they were developed against. They effectively reduced the chances of infection.

      By the time we got to omicron- less so, though still good at preventing serious disease