If i wanna move to some based eastern european country one day, getting decree in IT might be my best bet. I have tried applying as UX/UI designer however you can only study that here in Lahti so it would be terrible tactic to apply to only one school.

  • Masterofballs
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    210 months ago

    Network engineers still need to know python, docker and be decent with Linux

      • Masterofballs
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        310 months ago

        Honestly you can pick it up. You’ll need to understand and apply what is a for loop, a class, a map, a set, http request, snmp request, byte vs bit, ip 4 vs 6, what is a container, what is a vm, internet vs intranet, port forwarding, rate limiting, load balancing, network shares, maybe elasta search queries.

        That’s mostly it. In the states a lot of vets get hired as network engineers without degrees. They sometimes have it experience in the military.

    • @KingSlareXIV
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      210 months ago

      Not saying it’d hurt, but I’ve never worked anywhere that had network teams managing docker (that’d be a different team). Linux knowledge is just enough to install a vendor supplied appliance on your hypervisor of choice (managed by a different team), anything more than that would have the OS managed by a different team. And I really haven’t seen them script much of anything in any language, they have prebuilt tools to do any mass config changes or monitoring or whatever.

      They are generally way more concerned about working with horribly convoluted routing issues, misbehaving BGP, firewall policies, etc.

      • Masterofballs
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        110 months ago

        but I’ve never worked anywhere that had network teams managing docker

        Now i’m not a network engineer but have worked with them and from my experience,

        Most network switches are shipping with docker installed these days. Also lots of network dev environments are shipping in docker images plus docker-compose rather than virtual machines.

        I would not expect them to know everything about docker but it would probably be wise for them to know a few basic commands.

        The whole field of network engineer is moving more towards network automation engineer.

        • @KingSlareXIV
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          210 months ago

          I know docker gets jammed into a lot of different equipment these days, wasn’t aware of it in network switches tho.

          What sorts of containerized workloads are typically run on network equipment?

          • Masterofballs
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            110 months ago

            Usually monitoring agents. Though, it could be what every you want including bitcoin miners. With containers Cisco, Jupiter or whoever doesn’t have to worry about keeping their version of python up to date. Their version of what ever. They just keep their kernel and docker up to date and then the switch maintainers can install and update what ever they want in containers.