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      As an European can you explain what’s so wrong about him? So many laws have been blocked by the opposition.

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        With Biden? He’s a capitalist with the wrong priorities. He’s approved more new oil drilling than anyone else in recent memory, for example. If you’re European, you would probably consider him center-right, and I don’t believe that’s the right direction for America. We need stronger social safety nets, better education, and really need to invest in Americans again.

        Don’t get me wrong, he’s done a lot of good. He really has. But if we had ranked choice voting in this country, he absolutely would not have won. He does not represent most of us. But he represents most of us better than the other guy.

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          Center-right is what’s currently governing my country, so an absolutely cannot place him there.

          I should have probably specified better, don’t know why I just said European. I am from Italy, we have “the protector of the traditional family values” in power and two days ago she slashed welfare and a month ago invalidated some birth certificates of children from same-sex parents.

          Oil rigs are definitely something you don’t hear about unless you live there, I understand. Wasn’t clean energy an objective of him?

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            It is a matter of perspective but center-right generally means some forms of welfare and capitalist regulations are still encouraged for very obvious cases, like anti-monopoly laws and basic healthcare.

            What you’re describing sounds more like plain right-wing. no welfare programs of any kind, invalidating progressive policies instead of maintaining status quo.

            Biden made his whole career about cutting welfare programs and helping big corpos. He has shifted center in his former years, in part because the Democratic party now basically emcompass 75% of the political spectrum, since the GOP is now far-right, and everything left of that has to be absorbed by the democrats.

            Biden is making decent compromise, thanks to his legacy with Obama and members of the party like Bernie and AOC, but he is way too moderate to enact the solutions that the country needs, imo.

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            It’s been a talking point since I was a fresh face high schooler over 30 years ago. It’s been acted on only in very minor ways in that time. Nothing approaching what actually needed to be done.

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      Dutchie here. Not a fan of the multiparty system either. Anyone who hits the news (be it positive or negative) can start their own party if they get the number of party members required.

      Result: we had to enlarge our voting billets.

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        Unfortunately splitting the vote on the left is not the way avoid Trump further fucking up the country

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          If everyone that says they hated the two party system would actually vote third party then we’d actually have a third party.

          Biden doesn’t deserve my vote and I live in a red state. I’d vote for Cornel West even if I lived in a purple state, however, because I’m done propping up the least worst candidates.

          Nether the dems not the republicans represent the working class and they can all get fucked.

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            I get where you’re coming from, but a historic election like this is probably not the one for that action. It’s not run-of-the-mill “historic”, either.

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            I agree, but lesser of two evils and all that. I’m Canadian so I don’t vote for either.

            We have our own FPTP problems, but at least with a huge section of the country (Quebec) always voting in their federal party it allows room for the NDP in the rest of Canada.

            Fuckin’ Trudeau ran on election reform then dropped it and legalized weed. So I have mixed feelings about the guy.

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                That’s always how it is in a FPTP system. It was always going to be either the Conservatives or Liberals and the Conservatives keep offering laughably bad candidates. Although, as both those parties shift further right the NDP may have a chance in the distant future.

                All I’m saying is at least there’s room for other parties thanks to Quebec’s stubbornness. (I mean that in the most loving way)

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        Yeah I tossed my vote in the trash in 2016 like a fucking moron and I’ll never do that agin.