How does separating from the EU help business men pilfer the UK? Is it because they aren’t held responsible by EU standards anymore?

I wonder what’s up with Russia and it’s propaganda. I keep hearing this often, is it really that pervasive?

Ah, ok. What’s the propaganda though? Are there people actually saying UK should be separate from the EU?

Long description of my POV of apathy below. Please skip if it’s a bother.

I’m open to differing views and to being convinced otherwise.

It’s difficult to not be apathetic when you don’t see any real changes. Whenever I comment something like this, I’d be hit by someone saying something like, “I’m distancing myself from people like that”. And that’s their decision, it’s fine, but like, really, there’s no good answer to that, innit?

There’s little evidence pushing back is doing much. I don’t believe in things without evidence. If you push people to “just believe” without evidence, aren’t you the same as MAGAts?

At least, for the US, it seems useless. Nothing has happened to Trump or his Epstein accomplices despite the overwhelming evidence. Sure approval rates have gone below 30%, but what changed?

I may feel like there’s (relatively) more hope in Europe. UK protests pushed back the digital ID system and now it’s delayed for a few years at least.

I’m not sure we’re winning against fascism, though. If there’s good evidence for the positive impact of protests etc that have actually already happened under Trump era in destroying fascism, I’d like to know.

I think it’s at least beneficial for community protection and surviving (ex: against ICE) but can you topple Trump and the Epstein class? Because I think that’s what needs to be done for real lasting change. Alongside corporate hell.

I’ve personally mostly just shifted off terrible platforms like Reddit and Discord etc for selling people out to ICE, tracking, etc, because I’m afraid of Palantir leading to a thought-crime neo-nazi state. I don’t believe my decision will bring or lead to systemic change, but it will help protect me to some extent at least.

Are you saying they should have stayed with EU?

Genuine question, asking to understand.

thanks for pointing that out.

I’m not sure how this benefits the big corporations then. Surely they don’t have a deathwish? And aren’t stupid/incompetent enough to not see that? Else they’d not have gotten this big, right?

Are we forgetting we have a literal pedophile as the president?

How about we get that out?

You know what else is a death cult that brutalizes everyone? ICE.

How do you do that?? I want to poison em

It doesn’t even need to be radioactive/kryptonite.

Imagine getting hit down there with a rock. Yeah, I’d call that a weakness.

What about all the user data they sell to third parties? I’d be interested in knowing how that contributes to this

They’ll just declare bankruptcy and get away scott-free

Still not a good idea, discord and Reddit has sold out its users to ICE, and both train AI on your data.

Palantir will profile you and we will be living in a hellscape if it’s left unchecked.