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  • Literally living through war that tankies cheer for. With everything I managed to take with myself was a couple of hard drives and a spare clothes.

    If anything that experience would make anyone want less government and their planning.

    And what “advanced medicine and tech” are you talking about? That’s the things capitalist countries developed first (for the most part)

    You’re delusional if you want back the system that most people who lived under it hate!









  • Governments can also be sued

    My point is they don’t lose hard earned money, they just pay you money they collect forcefully from people. Basically it’s not a deterrent, but simple restitution

    As far as government accountability, that’s what elections are for.

    It’s quite rare for any candidate to talk about utilities in their campaign at all.

    People here tend to not associate govt owned corporations with the government itself. And when someone brings it up, they just make some kind of excuse about what terrible person you are for accusing such a benevolent government of incompetence when they don’t fix their stuff, and increase price 2

    And besides, chances of reelection are so slim I doubt any politician actually going for it. It’s much more profitable to simply lie about your promises

    But utilities really can’t go out of business

    They should declare bankruptcy and be sold to someone

    loss of those services would be catastrophic

    Government failed to consistently provide power — no catastrophe. Government failed to provide any water at all — no catastrophe (some people just started to pump and sell underground water)

    So why private buisness not providing just one of those services for the period before it’s bought, must result in catastrophe? (Just for time reference, the absence of water I described earlier already lasts longer than a year)


  • Governments can also be sued

    My point is they don’t lose hard earned money, they just pay you money they collect forcefully from people. Basically it’s not a deterrent, but simple restitution

    As far as government accountability, that’s what elections are for.

    It’s quite rare for any candidate to talk about utilities in their campaign at all.

    People here tend to not associate govt owned corporations with the government itself. And when someone brings it up, they just make some kind of excuse about what terrible person you are for accusing such a benevolent government of incompetence when they don’t fix their stuff, and increase price 2

    And besides, chances of reelection are so slim I doubt any politician actually going for it. It’s much more profitable to simply lie about your promises

    But utilities really can’t go out of business

    They should declare bankruptcy and be sold to someone

    loss of those services would be catastrophic

    Government failed to consistently provide power — no catastrophe. Government failed to provide any water at all — no catastrophe (some people just started to pump and sell underground water)

    So why private buisness not providing just one of those services for the period before it’s bought, must result in catastrophe? (Just for time reference, the absence of water I described earlier already lasts longer than a year)



  • As I said in reply to other person, in my country there’s private businesses providing those services for cheaper price than the government alternative. Infrastructure for the most part is provided by 3rd party.

    Also I keep hearing this talk about “government accountability”, but what mechanism of accountability does government have? Private firms at least can go out of business or sued. Government in worst case will just pay you some of its “tax money”



  • Because the other option is to starve to death.

    That’s pessimistic… Food can be grown…

    theft includes the net profits that are not shared with the workers

    How businesses would innovate without accumulating capital? What happens if they suffer a loss? What would they pay their workers?

    IMO it’s not theft, it’s just a price you’re paying for someone else to deal with risc possible losses while providing you stable income.

    Not talking about reserch, marketing and realization of goods/services, that someone without capital can’t do on their own.




  • By that logic, thieves are virtuous and valued by society.

    Thieves are forced to return what they stole, they don’t (usually) accumulate capital

    In reality, the wealthy are creating value for themselves and their peers

    Could you please provide an example? Even something like Apple products (luxuries) are used by people that can’t be called rich. So it’s hard for me to understand how wealthy could create their separate economy



  • First of all lobbying and any other intrusion into fair competition is incompatible with free market.

    As for the “rich” — without government enforced monopolies, their wealth is a representation of how much value they provide to society. Which roughly translates into their support by society. A bit like representative democracy, but more decentralized.