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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • Posts from this community still don’t show up on the mobile app I use :s
    Fortunately I can still see them from desktop.

    So uni started and I’ve been a lot more busy, but I’m still trying to practice my 3-Style with Anki. I’ve switched from having 1 card per commutator to 1 card for both a commutator and its inverse. This will speed up my learning but very likely slow down my recognition for when I encounter a letter pair that corresponds to an inverse. I’ll try to practice that when I’ve finished learning all the algs first.

    The tool I was creating is a little simpler now. It only fetches a few sheets (an old one by Jack Cai and Elliott Kobelansky’s). I use Jack Cai’s algs mainly as that’s the one I found first, but since it has many typos, I replace (via code) the ones I dislike with Elliott’s. Then I generate the Anki cards (with both comm and inverse). Right now I’m learning 378 corner commutators via 189 cards.

    What I’ve really grown to like is a mix of Elliott Kobelansky’s notation and standard notation.

    • Standard notation: [D' U': [R D' R', U2]]
      • In English:
        1. Set up with D' U'
        2. Do the insertion R D' R'
        3. Do the interchange U2
        4. Undo the insertion with R D R'
        5. Undo the interchange with U2
        6. Undo the setup with U D
    • Elliott’s notation: D': U' / R D' R'
      • In English:
        1. Set up with D'
        2. Do the pseudo-interchange U'
        3. Do the insertion R D' R'
        4. Do the pseudo-interchange twice U2
        5. Undo the insertion R D R'
        6. Do the pseudo-interchange again U'
        7. Undo the setup with D'
    • The mix I like: [D': [U' / R D' R']]
      • Exactly the same as Elliott’s notation, but I find it easier to read.

    What I do is I have both the standard notation and my modified Elliott notation on each card. That way I can try both and use the one that’s easiest to learn (it’s not always one or the other).
    Parsing Elliott’s notation and generating the mix is all automated, of course ;)







  • Sounds fun. I still don’t completely understand commutators so I never learned 3-Style. What method did you use before and what were your times?

    My PB is 3:07 with M2/OP. I’m going against the usual recommendation of “practice a lot of memo before learning 3-Style” but I’ve also read a few comments against doing that saying to just start with 3-Style immediately. Also knowing full 3-Style just sounds amazing.

    Do you do BLD too? What are your times and method?


  • I started learning 3-Style and I made my own tool to parse Jack Cai’s sheets and create flashcards for the algorithms. I even made it generate the algorithms that Jack Cai marked as “inverse of …” by inverting said algorithm. Since it’s best to start with pure commutators, I made the tool replace all appearances of pure commutators other algs with the pair name. I think it’s very useful, much more intuitive and makes learning much faster. Hopefully I’m able to learn all of 3-Style before uni break ends.

    (Btw: I posted on the last discussion thread but it doesn’t seem to show up. I hope this one does)