For real guys, we need a better way to debate, propose and vote on de-federation.
For real guys, we need a better way to debate, propose and vote on de-federation.
They only reason I started using hotels again is because my fiance gets good deals and they usually upgrade us because she works in the industry 🙂
My problem is that people talk as if these are the only options.
There are other services, like VRBO, that do the same thing and usually have the same properties. AirBNB is garbage now, so just use an alternative that doesn’t have the same bad policies and high fees.
I have supported Discord with a nitro subscription for as long as I’ve had an account. It’s a terrific program and there’s no reason to expect premium features for nothing in return. The mentality that everything should be free is why we have so many fucking ad driven online business models and I’m over it. I pay for what I use if it’s a good service.
Just look at the ratio on this post for a gold confirmation of those numbers. 300+ comments and 1400+ upvotes. That a decent interaction ratio.
Even just upvoting is still participation as well. Wiki is different.
Wikipedia is a different concept though.
This is social media. Wiki is information. I come here to share thoughts, but I only go to wiki to find data.
Almost everyone on social media posts random bullshit. That’s why there are tons and tons of comments on every post.
Things like reddit and Lemmy probably have at least 50% participation from their daily active users.
I posed this question to the admins a while back. How does the community officially suggest instances to defederate. How do we vote on those choices? Where is the process?
This was during the lemmy.online thing, where that instance (which no longer exists) created a bot to basic just crawl reddit and duplicate posts to their instance. I immediately told the instance admin that they should stop and I asked the admins where the process was to submit a de-federation request.
All I got was a bunch of BS from users about how de-federation should be something we don’t take lightly, blah blah blah, but all I was asking was where the process is. How are we even partaking in a system that’s so ripe for admin abuse?
The lemmy.world admins aren’t malicious… they’re just in over their heads. They’ve struggled with the technical side of running the service and they haven’t built out some of the social tools that an instance this side needs. Hopefully they mature quickly.
Yeah I’m having a hard time understanding this entire thread. Like… Is everyone here completely baked?
We touch our belts and then we wash our hands. Just like we touch our dicks AND THEN WE WASH OUR HANDS.
y’all are acting like I should be washing my dick too.
No, there’s no indication that Meta cares about the Fediverse.
This is all just a bunch of hype. Yes, of course we’ll defederate if they try. I think that’s fairly obvious.
Uh, we need participation from everyone in order for the fediverse to have legitimacy. We unfortunately need those cringe users if we want large scale adoption. Without it everything stays small scale, developers aren’t attracted to the concept and people leave for functioning alternatives.
There’s a 90% probability that Threads takes over from the failing Twitter. Nothing will change. No one will learn anything. More of everyone’s data will be stollen.
It’s easy to missjudge how much of our society are just mindless drones.
I still have a 8700K and haven’t really had the need to upgrade in a while. I’ll never buy a processor with something like this in it. If Microsoft forces it in new CPUs, I’m pretty sure I can make it the rest of my life with current hardware.
The difference between .17 and .18 is pretty substantial. Lemmy.world neglected to update to .18 because captcha support was not working for new account signups, so they waited for v0.18.1
https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-23_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.18.0
There should be substantial performance improvements because it moves Lemmy from using websocket to HTTP API.
There are lots of other fixes and things, but that is the most substantial change.
Thanks for blocking that instance.
I tried to explain to their admin why the entire concept was bad for the fediverse but they didn’t seem to understand.
People can do whatever they want with their instances, but something like that should defederate themselves and live in a void.
That isn’t the way to try and build content or community over here. We have the high ground. We don’t need to stoop down to their level.
Twitter is still here as well, without much moderation.
The platforms survive. Interactions just get a lot worse. But most people still refuse to leave.
I don’t want to be a part of that system anymore, which is why I’m here even though I don’t necessarily believe this form of federation social network is designed very well.
The thing with the Fediverse is that things like this aren’t really possible. The creators of Lemmy are pretty anti-capitalist, so the source-code won’t ever support ads.
An instance admin could try to modify it to incude Ad Sense, but the users would just reject that instance and move to a free one.
I personally wouldn’t mind premium features, like animated emotes and stuff for people that pay for monthly subscriptions, but again, things like that don’t work in the fediverse because they won’t be supported on every instance.
Maybe there will be some creative solutions that get made, but it’s highly unlikely due to how things are setup.
I couldn’t have said it better.
I haven’t seen that much of a problem on Lemmy.ml, so I think you really have to dig down into it to find the dirt. I think some people have a problem with the admins political views, so they try to smear them any chance they can. But those same admin made lemmygrad as a place to kinda keep all that stuff separate from the main instance.
Sure, it seeps over sometimes, but the bulk of the content on lemmy.ml is just standard shit. Reddit was no different. Most subreddits were normal and there were a few ones that were full of imbalanced idiots. That didn’t make people leave the site completely. We just didn’t sub to the subreddits we didn’t like. In a similar vein, just block the communities here that you don’t want to see.
As far as the “too many communities” discussion goes… we’re never going to win that battle. The majority of people out there aren’t willing to make the change to the fediverse because of this one issue. Most likely a true Reddit alternative will be made and most normies will move there in time.
It’s great that Lemmy has gained some popularity, but there are too many issues here for it ever to become as big as something like Reddit.
Yeah moving to a federation alternative seems like it would be extremely welcomed in that type of community. They would have a lot more freedom in posting whatever content they wanted without being bothered by the reddit admins.
Pirates are notoriously good at finding the content they are looking for, so a “hidden” community on Lemmy would still thrive.
Crypto? no. NFTs? yeah pretty much.
Bored Apes have dropped around 3/4 of their value over the past year. They’re still worth over $60,000, but anyone that bought them, or any other NFT, over the past year has taken a massive hit.
The real question is whether NFT prices will cycle with bitcoin when crypto prices spike back up or not. Crypto has always had crazy peaks and dumps, and that pattern will probably continue, but I think NFTs are just going to go to zero. There’s no real reason for crypto, so speculating on a thing that has no value that’s based on a thing that has no value is real dumb.