The SE is a great entry level watch to see if you like it. That said, if Apple has refurbs for S7 or S8 and they’re similar in price, I’d go for one of those. Sleep tracking, always on display, and smaller bezels are wonderful. Not essential, but wonderful.

I meant stock as in pre installed apps that come with the watch.

I forget the stacks are there most of the time, which negates most of the changes they made. The new look of the stock apps is fine with me though.