Good. They deserve worse than losing for committing genocide. I don’t support the Republicans but I need the Democrats to lose this one.

Love to see it. Even my mom, who used to call herself a “proud democrat” since getting citizenship here, won’t be voting this election.

The list of folks guilty of war crimes is myriad and not limited to the presidents. Yes.

I don’t believe you could or should blame Biden singlehandedly for Palestine. Yes.

Neither of those lessen the guilt that the Presidents bear, they simply expand the roster of people to try for abetting war crimes. When it comes to punishment, it’s fine to start at the top and work down the hierarchies until someone feels like it’s getting to be too much. Part of the point is revenge. Part of the point is to set an example. Clearly the Nuremberg trials didn’t go far enough because the “Allies” didn’t learn from it.

I like the idea of acknowledging this is a wish list. I don’t believe there to be anywhere that will punish or reward them. I feel like that’s another fairy tale.

I argue for what’s moral whether or not anyone else will listen. The realization that nobody who can try these war criminals will try them is another way to help people learn that we live in a fundamentally evil system that must be destroyed.

7% too many, but inshallah the Democrats lose for embracing genocide.

The courts you imagine to exist for trying these folks… Where can I find them?

Take your pick. There’s the Hague, which is internationally recognized as a place to try war criminals. Or there could be a tribunal in Nuremberg since that’s where they hanged (a woefully paltry number of) high-ranking Nazis after WWII. Or those war criminals could be handed over to People’s Courts comprised of the families that survived having their loved ones murdered. Send Bush to Iraq, send Biden to Palestine, send Clinton to Libya.

The country decided that the president is immune from prosecution. A system which enshrines in its legal structures such morally reprehensible positions is completely illegitimate. We don’t have to obey, nor should we.

As for your last question, consider it a wish-list. But if anyone in government actually had a conscience they would be demanding this too or seeking to change the laws to get the ball rolling. Gotta prosecute and punish the war criminals before they die of old age and escape to a Hell that will be far kinder on them than they deserve.

Excuse me why would it be Clinton/Harris instead of Harris/Clinton? Kamala is the VP and has seniority. Clinton better respect that. Why are these strategists putting a White woman over a Black woman? Are they racist? / radlib bit off

(Obviously they’re racist. Please let this happen it would be so funny)

Liberals are white supremacists

Who gives a shit? That’s not even close to as egregious as the war crimes America has committed across the world for decades. Why haven’t they tried Bush, Biden, HRC, and a ton of other congresspeople for butchering Iraq? Why haven’t they tried Biden for Palestine?

It really shows that these liberals consider the victims of American imperialism to be subhuman. Their lives don’t matter to Liberals.

Liberals when Presidents commit war crimes:

Liberals when a President tampers with an already illegitimate and undemocratic process to tip the odds of winning in his favor:

Are any of them willing to throw in with leftist organizing? I would not be upset at people for figuring out late that fascism is a threat if they were willing to admit they were late to the party, don’t know what’s going on, and are not experienced enough to lead so they should stay quiet, learn from those of us who’ve been on the front lines, and help us by doing what the movement tells them needs doing. But instead they tell me to just vote when there’s nobody to vote for.

<3 solidarity

This is a good take. Fascism always gets what it wants in the current system

Right??? I don’t see what’s “new” about any of this shit. It’s almost like the libs don’t know America has been fascist all along. They are OK with the fascist levels of yesterday but not tomorrow, and in 2 days they’ll be OK with the fascist levels of tomorrow but not the day after the day after tomorrow

Yeah. I wish the Democrats would actually do something real about it but they seem determined to never actually practice what they preach

I see what you’re saying but also I don’t see why the Fascist American government would want to have an immune system response against getting even more fascist.

Joke’s on them due to my family’s race and religion we’ve been on the deport list for years, it can’t get worse than that

Thanks for the support, that makes sense

I care about it in the sense that it is real and it is happening, and am doing things in my life and in my community to protect myself and my comrades as best I can.

Yeah that’s the only thing I can think of to do, try to protect as many of us as possible locally and hope that everyone else everywhere else is trying to do the same. There’s no stopping this legally without Democratic support and the Democrats really act like they want it to happen.

They’re adherents of the American Civic Religion and all of their views and beliefs come through that lens. Their blind faith prevents them from recognizing the material and political realities of the situation. Which is to say, they’re worse than useless and are a defacto enemy as they crush any seed of effective resistance while diverting all resources to the collaborationist DNC.

Not much we can do now but try to survive and protect what and who we can.

Well said, thank you comrade.

What was that liberal tweet about how people would riot if Roe was overturned? It got so many retweets and shares. Riots should have happened, but when it came time to do it none of the liberals rioted.

I remember the milquetoast “progressive” Nathan J Robinson arguing that if Biden won he should stack the Supreme Court to fix it, since everyone could see the Republicans had cheated to capture the SC anyway. Even that was too extremist. The Democratic Party straight up does not want to win. What’s the point of voting them into power when they just turn around and hand all that power to the Republicans anyway for the sake of “bipartisanship” and “being the bigger people”?

I’m not leaving the USA though, shithole though it is it’s my home and my family have all moved here. I don’t want to go somewhere else. Fascism is on the rise all across the West and I don’t do well with extreme heat so the Global South is out.

They should release their own project 2025 if they want to convince us they have any plan at all. As is it is clear the Democrats have no plan beyond, as BlueMagaChud said, fundraising off it. They love to lose.

This is something I find so frustrating about the libs. They basically handed their supposed enemies victory over and over again and are now saying that it’s up to us to save the country from the disaster they enabled, but they will also only accept salvation if it’s done by doing exactly what led to this point.

For all that Copmala talks about how we didn’t fall out of the coconut tree and need to envision a future unburdened by what has been, when I actually envision a future free of their bullshit they clutch their pearls and say it’ll never work.