AskewLord

because it doesn’t offer anyone any really value.

it’s massively inconvenient and expensive compared to non-vr versions.

i worked on a VR program 20 years ago. the same issues persist today as they did back then. it’s still bulky, uncomfortable, annoying, and way too many people get sick from using it for any prolonged period of time. if 50% of your users throw up after 5 minutes, you don’t have a viable product.

it’s only really good for short term novelty experiences. and that’s where it overwhelmingly gets used, always has, and always will.

Everything you do, at home or work, is shaped by God. God made you, whether or not you want to be directly involved in the making up of his world is up to you, but you’re still part of the God by using it and benefiting form his generosity and existence.

my line of questioning is to point out the absurdities of what you are saying that derive from such a vastly over generalized as to be totally pointless and any generally broad concept can be used. God, nature, the Force, etc.

You seem to think politics is anything and everything, sort of like how religious people see God, or natural spiritualist see nature. You are imposing a generalized belief structure on everyone, without realizing a lot of people just don’t believe in what you believe in. And you deem anyone agree with your belief structure as heretical and ignorant.

I don’t believe anyone does anything ‘in my name’. But I don’t see myself as part of some grand unified force you seem to believe in and call ‘politics’. I’m only a part of the systems I choose to be a part of, by my own desires. I vote for certain things, support certain things, and not others. It’s all very specific to me and sometimes I don’t have any views or concerns on the topic because it has no impact on me…

do you ever ask yourself why does it upset you that other people are different than you? have you ever asked yourself that?

or is it that if people think differently than you, they are bad and wrong, because it invalidates your personal choices and thoughts? and you need yours to be validated by other people’s agreement?

and why you must insult and demean anyone who doesn’t validate your views, rather than consider their validity as their lives, experiences, and knowledge are very different than yours?

for you. that’s how you see the world.

lots of people see it as a hobby, or a sport. or many other things.

you are speaking for yourself. not everyone sees the world as you see it. for most people politics doesn’t exist when it comes to food. maybe it does for you. why is it that you think you speak for everyone?

people who are polarized don’t see it that way. they only care about your agreement or using violence if you disagree.

lemmy has a ton of users who openly advocate for violence against those they disagree with. but if you ask them if they apply that standard of themselves, they say start telling you that’s the ‘paradox of tolerance.’ because you know their opinions are totally good if they are intolerance of the intolerance! but they themselves should be tolerated! or something. it’s pure insanity.

everyone wants to be the perpetrator of violence, but never the victim…

I’m against self-righteous twats who declare they know best for everyone and anyone who doesn’t agree with them is an idiot or bad person.

I am actively politically involved and have been my entire life. I just missed the memo where that gives me the right to browbeat and harass and lecture other people for not choosing to do that. Am I being irresponsible for not lecturing you about going to local town meetings like I do? Or writing your city councilmen, or voting in in local referendum elections?

And yeah, I do think politics is about direct impacts. being politically involved on an abstract level is nothing more than mental masturbation. It’s ego stroking. hence why people on the internet love it so much. they get to faff off how superior they are to other people in the abstract, without dealing with any of the real world specifics that complicate their moralizing of their own superiority over ‘apolitical’ people and how ‘stupid’ they are.

my brother in law can’t vote. he’s not a citizen. he can opine all day, but literally can’t vote for anything or affect any real change. he has no rights to do so. he is effectively apolitical, as he’s not allow to participate in the democratic process by law.

there is nothing wrong with being apolitical.

that upsets people who are very political, because those people are different than they are. and they don’t like that. political people derive meaning and purpose from political viewpoints and actions. apolitical people don’t.

it’s not any different than those who believe in God demanding those who don’t believe in God must believe in him. it is very hard for someone who cares a lot about a thing, and derives their meaning and purpose in life from that thing, that that thing doesn’t matter or exist for someone else.

what it boils down to is ‘us vs them’. political people see non political people as ‘them’ and also see those who don’t agree with their politics as ‘them’. my dad was very political, but very conservative, is that better than him being apolitical and not voting? i’d have liked him better actually, since he spent most nights at the dinner table talking about how women should not be able to vote and all liberals and non-whites should be shot.

i don’t like sports. lots of people who like sports and get very upset that i don’t care about sports, often to the point my disinterest is considered a hostile attitude towards them personally.

that’s how i feel about political people vs a apolitical people. political people are ‘offended’ that apolitical people exist and they are offended by me for not being upset that they exist like they are. I’m not apolitical either. But I respect people’s choices to be different than me. I choose to vote in all elections, local or national, and spending my free time being ‘informed’ and frankly, I realize that I am a weirdo. and i don’t get upset at people who don’t vote like i do, or don’t vote at all. i also don’t get on my high horse at people for not knowing what i know.

you are basically arguing for the butterfly effect. i open my car door, does that cause a typhoon in japan?

if i did, how could it ever be proven?

and if things are so deterministic, what is the point of making choices really?

most of us are not that important. my vote for harris did nothing to help or harm the climate or change weather patterns. i won’t be here in 50 years, let alone 500, so it climate policy is irrelevant to me.

I vote all the time. just don’t have any delusion that my vote is this big huge deal or that I’m ‘changing the world’. I also don’t care about a lot of issues, and that’s fine. I am limited being with limited time and resources and I not everything I do is an explicit endorsement of any politics. Perhaps for you it is, but for me it’s not.

Just like maybe you enjoy PB and J sandwiches, and I do not. People are different. Some people don’t ever have a PB & J sandwich in their life, and the concept doesn’t exist to them.

Yeah I am. Where I live it very much is sportsball. Even on the local level.

I am involved in my local cities politics. It is not very complicated. Most people believe in winners vs losers and most every debate is framed that way. it has nothing to do with red vs blue. my city is like 90% blue, but still very anti-progressive on many issues.

for example in my city bike lanes are super controversial, because while the city has been adding them, many residents feel that bike lanes are theft from cars and car owners. many of these very same people are progressives, who have BLM stickers on their lawns in multi-million dollar homes, but think bike lanes are for ‘privileged white people’ and their are just poor struggling folks!

is in good faith discussion if I start pointing out the absurdities that come from your arguments? that are massively overgeneralized?

lots of things are apolitical. most people are not thinking about politics every moment of everyday. even if you are.

tildes has a very strong bent. if you say anything the admin disagrees with you get banned.

was banned there pretty fast because i kept quoting legal stuff, and the users didn’t like that and the nor did the admin. they don’t like facts that interrupt their biases.

for me quality discussion should include facts, not consist of convenient narratives that are highly biased. but that isn’t what the users and the admin their believe. fwiw i also got my comments for removed for my disagreement about movies being good/bad/great, which is entirely subjective. but apparently my dislike of tropey action films, like Christopher Nolan’s and Hans Zimmers BWAHHH BWAAHH nonsense, upset people.

yeah i can do that, until they report me and get me banned because the mod in charge of the community agrees with them.

fwiw i got banned from reddit entirely, for having an outdoor cat and posting about it, because it pissed off many ‘cats are mass murderers and should only be kept indoor’ users, and the mods who agreed with them. i was banned over the pretext of ‘promoting violence’ by allowing my cat to be outdoors, and therefore being ‘pro mass murder’.

It gets nasty real fast. this wasn’t even in a subreddit about cats, it was in a local city subreddit.

the issue is that people have a massive bias that their choices and beliefs, are the only valid and correct ones, and everyone else should be silenced or abused until they agree.

what about content where it’s liberals hating on conservatives or policing every event for diveristiy and inclusion?

like i used to post about bike rides on reddit. and host them. then i got harassed for being ‘ableist’, because what about someone who can’t ride a bike, i’m excluding them and being discriminatory! no bike ride should exist unless it’s inclusive for people who can’t ride bikes because of a disability or lack of physical fitness!

i have no direct say in any of that.

especially as i don’t have the cash to say, tear down my building and rebuild an entirely new modern one with new plumbing.

and if i moved to where only travel by car was viable, what does that imply about my politics?

OK, so I voted for harris. And it’s cold this year.

apparently my voted caused it to be cold this year.

did i vote wrong if i didn’t want it to be cold?

So I vote for Harris and she doesn’t win, it’s my fault she lost? and i’m personally responsible for USAID being dismantled?

yes, there are. and there was in the past but some shutdown or userbase left.

they never had as many users as lemmy does. lemmy is the largest coherent alternative that is open and accessible.

there are much smaller closed off platforms.

people who use a platform based on it’s supposed politics are never going to be normal. they are going to be ideological and see everything through said ideology and try to enforce that ideology on others on the platform.

and they aren’t going to allow ‘normal’ content if normal isn’t coded/policed to be consistent with their beliefs.

reddit was ‘normal’ until 2016, and then slowly every aspect of the site was politicized. i used to have lots of different viewpoints and a general consensus in the middle somewhere. after 2016 reddit started fracturing into more extremist camps who would take over various subreddits and impose their views on everyone else.

which politics though? is that progressive or conservative?