Well I had hoped, naiively that Reddit would respect the developer community that had helped make their website so popular. A community of developers provided apps and services for them for the simple price of a free API. I thought the APIpocolypse might happen, but I thought reddit was special somehow and they would see how beautiful and vibrant that community was and not damage it for fear of damaging the soul of the website. Yeah, that was pretty fucking naiive.

Ah well, I’ll put my energy into Lemmy and Fediverse projects instead.

And no mention of what happens to their API but knowing google it either goes away entirely or totally changes with significant rework required.

Related, the reason I no longer use any google API: https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprecation-policy-is-killing-you-ee7525dc05dc

Works in the playground, but not so much when they can start the worst conflict the planet has ever seen.

I’ve been on the internet since pretty much the start so I’ve seen dozens of great communities come and go. Normally they reach some kind of malthusian breaking point where they collapse under their own weight, I think this is the first time where sheer greed caused the end though.

So yes, this is the cycle of the internet. Death is actually good for an ecosystem though, it means that new things can evolve, such as the fediverse.

I do feel sad for what will be lost though, and every time I load Apollo to remember this great app with all the care and attention put in to it will be gone at the end of the month.

I would like to hear more about the move to Voat, what caused the failure in your opinion? I was not part of that as I had other things going on at the time.

Hacker News, a link aggregator similar to oldschool reddit before subreddits were introduced. I find it often has some interesting discussions but it’s not for everybody.

Precisely, you don’t have to be deeply technical to understand this, you just have to be willing to put in a little bit of work.

I also found it a little complex and daunting at first as it was my first contact with the fedirverse, and I’ve been on the internet since pretty much the start.

We’ll make it a great place to be, and other people will see the benefits and put in the same work too.

Precisely. Investors like apps because users cannot change their user experience, disable telemetry, block ads easily, and so on. They receive push notifications which drive engagement and allow easier tracking across accounts.

I could be tempted but none of that is going to happen. Even though this move will kill the community, it won’t kill it fast enough to cause a problem. There’s just too much money to be made.

He has a number of successful apps beyond Apollo, so I hope that they will tide him over until his next project. I would love the story arc where he returns and exacts vengeance on Reddit but I would definitely not blame him for never touching social media again.

So what you’re saying is that you’d like to be here if the content was here? Why not invest in the future by making some yourself or by commenting?

I don’t know what happened but in the last half hour the website has become highly responsive again. Thank you admins for your hard work.

I don’t see a problem so long as they do so in good faith - for example publishing full event contents to ActivityPub instead of adding a link back to the Facebook Threads app, which is basically what a lot of news sites do with their RSS feeds to get advertising money.

So long as they do that, it’s not really possible to do a rug-pull. There are far more Facebook users than Fediverse users after all, so it’s going to be advertising for the Fediverse for as long as this lasts and if users would like to remain part of it they’ll have to move to another server. That is, assuming it ends.

To answer the question though, I don’t care for microblogging personally and I don’t like Meta as a company so I won’t use it. I appreciate the scepticism but I feel optimistic.

I think defederating is easier said than done, and besides, what if one community is very well behaved and helpful and another is toxic and awful? You throw out the good with the bad in that case.

I think instead the user should be able to choose to combine similar communities, similar to the ‘multireddit’ concept. Then they can get lemmy.ml gaming and beehaw gaming in the same feed.

To help with discovery, a curated list could be created, and perhaps communities from that list could be suggested as time goes on. This does require some kind of centralisation but it would be down to the instance owner to decide to subscribe to it.

It depends on whether someone’s a member of the community or just because they want to scroll some epic memes. I expect many people are of the latter category and probably don’t even understand what the fuss is about.

It’s not like I’ll never look at Reddit again if there’s useful info on it but I won’t be part of the Reddit community again after the scorn and disrespect they showed it - I hope to help build something new over here.

I can’t do anything about Reddit’s decisions but I can vote with my attention and help to build a compelling alternative.

Look at the top right of my screenshot, you will see some extra icons. I’m sorry, I should have included the URL: https://lemmy.ml/post/1212570?scrollToComments=true

I was logged in under this same account as I was browsing.

I just mentioned Dynamo as an idea without thinking about it too much.

Dynamo works well for one and two dimensional data structures but for more complex things you probably want a regular database. I expect it could be done efficiently but not at a good cost and without tons of technical difficulty.

Being a member of the Fediverse is an investment in the future I feel. There’s not tons right now like on Reddit, but you can stick around and help build it by posting, commenting and voting. Alternatively, you can come back in a few years when this is the way that new communities form.

Reddit’s behaviour is a statement of intent for the future, to make money at all costs, sell up and become another advertiser friendly walled garden like Instagram. That’s fine for them, but I have no interest in being part of that.

It is yes, but there is an (unrelated) Android client called Jerboa if that is the OS you use.

I would very much like the Apollo developer to do this but possibly he’s burnt out on social media and would like to work on something else. He has developed a series of other unrelated apps that make him a decent income also.

Well, they want to do something and he wants them to not do it so he is the enemy and must be destroyed. I’ve seen this in many companies over the years.

What frustrates me is that nobody from that side is telling the truth: Third party developers were once useful but are now a liability and they have to go because a future buyer or investor will not understand the value of a vibrant development community and see something that cannot be controlled. The timeline for the IPO is ticking down and there is no time to come up with a way to formally integrate these clients, either by buyout or agreeing some sort of advertisement or subscription SDK. It’s unpleasant but I’d have more respect for the truth than lying and slandering the character of a good guy in the process.

Thank goodness he had recordings or this could have been career limiting for him, not that this occurred to the people with dollar signs in their eyes.