This pseudo-science bullshit does not belong on Lemmy.
I wouldn’t call it pseudoscience, and your link could be “debunked” by people with opposing views; it would be more helpful to discuss the issue at hand rather than respond as such
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“Bullshit”, usually.
“everything that is wrong is pseudoscience”
how about a hypothesis? doctors prescribed cancer-causing cigarettes at one time, right? There are people raising concerns over the dangers of microwaves, that is all. We can have a discussion about it, or I can just call the view that “microwaves are safe” “pseudoscience”… but then there isn’t really much of a discussion.
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That’s the problem. You believe the nonsense. You can’t provide credible sources because the nonsense is not credible it is unworthy of discussion. There is no middle ground. It is garbage.
The title is dumb and misleading, but I don’t doubt that the microwave process does degrade the quality of the food. But that depends on the food itself, the microwave isn’t killing you…
We should always doubt until we see evidence.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/microwave-ovens-and-health#nutrients
"Every form of cooking reduces the nutrient value of food.
The main contributing factors are temperature, cooking time, and method. During boiling, water-soluble nutrients may leak out of the food.
As far as microwaves go, cooking times are generally short, and the temperature is low. Plus, the food is usually not boiled.
For this reason, you would expect microwave ovens to retain more nutrients than methods like frying and boiling.
According to two reviews, microwaving does not reduce nutrient value more than other cooking methods"
there are plenty of contrary sources that raise questions about the safety of microwaves: https://naturalsociety.com/microwaves/
That’s a chemtrail peddling quack site
> implying there are not chemicals being sprayed in to the atmosphere
Everything in the entire universe is made from chemicals. Turning on your kitchen faucet is “spraying chemicals into the atmosphere”
bro your ‘source’ has no credibility. Microwaves are only as bad as every other cooking method. Maybe different slightly, but they’re all similar. Probably true that some raw foods are healthier but the rest of what you say is fake science
Do you have any “sources” that aren’t conspiratorial pseudo-science?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-society/
This does not belong on Lemmy.
Do you have any arguments against what is being said rather than simply attack the source? What if what they are saying is correct?
The misinformation you are posting is unworthy of discussion. No one is in any way obligated to entertain your nonsense.
Why don’t you open your mind and be skeptical with your sources?
We simply don’t know the long-term effects of radiation, so why risk it by watching your food cook in your microwave day after day and night after night?
Microwave radiation does not have any long-term effects on your health or food quality. Microwave ovens use non-ionizing radiation, which does not damage cells or DNA. Microwave radiation is also contained within the oven and does not leak out. Therefore, there is no risk of watching your food cook in your microwave.
https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/what-to-microwave-ovens-health
Tissues directly exposed to microwaves are subject to the same deformities molecules go through, and this can in turn cause you to experience “microwave sickness”. Remember, it isn’t just microwave ovens which emit this kind of radiation.
Microwave ovens do not expose tissues to microwaves, as they are shielded and contained within the oven. Microwave ovens use non-ionizing radiation, which does not cause deformities in molecules or cells.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26556835/
Microwaving food, in effect, potentially destroys and depletes the life energy, rendering the food completely dead and lifeless. In addition, the food’s nutritional value is lost and it becomes nearly useless in terms of providing any real health benefit.
Microwaving food does not affect its nutritional value negatively, as long as it is cooked properly and with minimal water. In fact, microwaving food can preserve some nutrients better than other cooking methods, such as boiling or frying, because it reduces the exposure to heat and water.
https://www.drberg.com/blog/do-microwaves-actually-lower-your-nutrients-in-food
Vitamin C in asparagus spears was lost during a 1999 Scandinavian study.
This is not unique to microwaving, as any cooking method that involves heat and water can have the same effect. In fact, microwaving food can preserve more vitamin C than boiling or frying, because it uses less water and shorter cooking times.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/microwave-cooking-and-nutrition
Microwaving Food Leads to a Negative Impact on Human Physiology & the Heart
The Swiss Federal Office of Public Health, which issued a press release in 1992 stating that Hertel’s study was not scientifically valid and that there was no evidence that microwaved food was harmful to health.
non-ionizing radiation, which does not damage cells or DNA
well, that’s the point of the discussion because there is not consensus that is true:
“When theory and observation collide: Can non-ionizing radiation cause cancer?”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0269749116309526
Evidence of free-radical damage has been repeatedly documented among humans, animals, plants and microorganisms for both extremely low frequency (ELF) electromagnetic fields (EMF) and for radio frequency (RF) radiation, neither of which is ionizing. While IR directly damages DNA, NIR interferes with the oxidative repair mechanisms resulting in oxidative stress, damage to cellular components including DNA, and damage to cellular processes leading to cancer. Furthermore, free-radical damage explains the increased cancer risks associated with mobile phone use, occupational exposure to NIR (ELF EMF and RFR), and residential exposure to power lines and RF transmitters including mobile phones, cell phone base stations, broadcast antennas, and radar installations.
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Microwave ovens do not expose tissues to microwaves
I guess there would be concern that they could if they leaked (microwave harm reduction as a related topic)
Microwaving food does not affect its nutritional value negatively
I think it’s accepted that it does, along with cooking, but this was thought to be a trade off for killing possible diseases.
can preserve some nutrients better than other cooking methods, such as boiling or frying, because it reduces the exposure to heat and water
That would be true all else equal, but it’s argued microwaves possibly create unique damage
This is not unique to microwaving
Raw food advocates would argue against microwaves and other non-microwave cooking methods though
The Swiss Federal Office of Public Health, which issued a press release in 1992 stating that Hertel’s study was not scientifically valid and that there was no evidence that microwaved food was harmful to health
it’s possible they could be correct but also possible this is a fallacy of appealing to authority
I don’t doubt that the microwave process does degrade the quality of the food
Same, food can be eaten raw or cooked in other ways, that’s all that is suggested…
This post was reported four times as pseudoscience and misinformation.
Currently this community doesn’t have any rules against posting pseudoscience and misinformation for discussion.
Also, it seems like the discussion here has focused on exactly why this is pseudoscience and misinformation, with lots of educational links about how microwave cooking actually works.
So this stays up for now. Be nice, folks.
This post was reported four times as pseudoscience and misinformation.
Maybe the community is telling you something?
Hey OP, if you’re feeling attacked maybe try to engage some critical thinking skills and the scientific method. There’s decades of established research and evidence that you can work on reproducing and proving it wrong. That’s the beauty of open information and the scientific method. I’m sure there’s an amazing opportunity for anyone who is able to show that decades of peer reviewed research is wrong.
Understood, however microwaves being healthy or not is independent of studies (implying studies could be wrong and have been at times)
Independent of studies? Are you suggesting the claims are unverifiable by experiment?
If that’s the case, then claim whatever you want.
Commenter here made the best argument IMO. If you truly believe this pseudoscience bullshit, then you have fantastic opportunity in front of you to prove your claims and overturn decades of scientific understanding regarding the safety of microwaves. You could be famous.
Unicorns are real. Studies saying otherwise could be wrong and have been at times.
OP is right, that’s why I cook everything in my anti-vax homeopathic oven. No 5G is getting in my lasagna 🤡
I have bad news for you, your lasagne contains dihydrogen monoxide, it can kill you! You are 100% going to die.
You are absolutely correct. Research shows that 100% of people who died in the past 500 years has dihydrogen monoxide in their body!!!
Oh no! Can I have some thoughts and prayers? 🥺
Wait until you learn about how much β-D-fructofuranosyl α-D-glucopyranoside there is in things you eat regularly. That shit will kill you.
“the way nature intended”
mediabiasfactcheck.com/medical-daily/
Bias Rating: PSEUDOSCIENCE
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
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MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITYThanks, I just checked another site posted here as a source of ‘facts’
Good Bot?
This is no argument against the claims made in the article or other articles
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“The eight participants[…]”
No.
Including the not so scientific researcher lol
Give it another day or two and OP is going to be posting stupid shit about UFOs, flat earth or MAGA nonsense.
UFOs
a prevailing view is that aliens are demons and “UFOs” are a kind of fakery to distract people
flat earth
many people have become skeptical about the shape of the earth due to proven fakes about space and unanswered questions about space-related topics, for example popular pictures of the earth were not “real” pictures but composites:
https://qz.com/192700/the-guy-who-created-iphones-earth-image-explains-why-he-needed-to-fake-it
we also don’t know what gravity is (just search “we don’t know what gravity is” for a bunch of articles)
MAGA
if only we could break the uniparty…
Shut the fuck up. No one wants to hear from you.
this is so dumb
cooking food increases caloric intake. you absolutely get more nutrients from cooked food that is why we cooked food and why we have big brain
I guess the question would be, could you cook food with radioactive material, versus cooking simply with fire? Or stovetop versus charcoal contaminants
radioactive material is a loaded word here as heating most things causes them to release infrared radiation which we use to cook often
you absolutely get more nutrients from cooked food
Sure, this is just questioning if it is healthy or safe to cook the food with a microwave, versus stovetop or a grill
You know what is actually bad for your health?
Living.
Well, if people only live of typical microwave food, they do live unhealthy. I don’t think this would be news for anyone.
For anyone else who uses a microwave e.g. to heat a cup of milk, this is most likely a non-issue.
