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        “The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination”

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          The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination

          “The Paradox of Tolerance” is easily solved if you stop thinking of Tolerance as an imperative, and instead as a social contract. Those who do not abide by the social contract of Tolerance are not protected by it.

          Therefore Racists, the anti-tolerant, will not be tolerated.

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            Are you implying “anti racist discrimination” is justified by your quote? I agree with your quote, but it is not supportive of Kendi’s quote in the slightest. To discriminate is to “unjustly treat categories of people”, so if someone is acting racist and you don’t tolerate them, that is not discrimination at all because you are judging them for their actions, not their looks.

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              so if someone is acting racist and you don’t tolerate them, that is not discrimination at all because you are judging them for their actions, not their looks.

              So what is the difference between that and “anti-racist discrimination”?

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          No they don’t, silly goose. You’re only listening to con artists who tell you that: which they do because you’re easy to fleece for cash if you’re angry and afraid. Woke is about becoming aware of inequality and how privileged white people are in western society. It isn’t about hatred or tearing anybody down (except maybe the rich). It’s about building up those whom society has kept at a disadvantage.

          But you’ve been told that equality is a zero sum game, and that any rights someone else gains come from rights they’ve taken from you. But it isn’t like that at all.

          Stop listening to people who tell you to fear. It isn’t courage. If someone calls you an asshole, maybe consider the possibility that you’re being one?

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          Did you know it’s possible to acknowledge social inequality and historical (as well as current) racism and use that knowledge to produce positive results for everyone?

          Did you know it’s possible to build policies that are mutually beneficial to both straight white male people and those who are not straight, white or male?

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            Yes that is the ideology. Sadly in the real world the people who hide behind those ideals are actually racist.

            Did you know it’s possible to acknowledge social inequality and historical racism Yes and I would like to expand that racism itself does not discriminate. Members of minority groups are not immune to being racist,sexist,homophobic,… or any other deranged behavior. That is my only point here.

            beneficial to both straight white male people and those who are not straight, white or male? Now this was racist as fuck. You could say ‘for everyone’ but you had to discriminate one of many colors we have. I would really wanna know who those ‘white’ people are. Please explain so I can avoid those racist assholes.

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              Now this was racist as fuck. You could say ‘for everyone’ but you had to discriminate one of many colors we have.

              Pointing out the majority, the intrinsic traits that would give an individual the most ready access to power for the last 3 millenia if not longer is not racist, it’s acknowledging your own privilege, your own luck when being born. Or if you’re not a straight, white, male, it’s acknowledging the extra hurdles of discrimination (intentional or not), and the limited access to famialial resources that you might have to overcome for which the straight white male would not.

              As a straight white male you will probably never be denied a loan, a business license, a job or access to college due to discrimination. If you are not straight white or male you very well may have been multiple times over by the time you’re reading this

              Members of minority groups are not immune to being racist,sexist,homophobic

              This is true, but it’s also extremely important to separate equity from equality, as well as acknowledgement of yours and others traits from discrimination. It’s also extremely important to remember that celebrating your traits that remove you from the majority is not about saying you’re superior but is about building pride and appreciation where previously one may have had to hide these traits from the world or have their options limited by simply having these traits.

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                No if the “intrinsic traits” are skin color. It is the same as being person of darker skin color makes you a latent criminal, rapist etc. You see my point here?

                We can talk about social and political background of a person or a group but if you mix skin color into accusations you are an actual racist.

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                if you’re not a straight, white, male, it’s acknowledging the extra hurdles of discrimination (intentional or not), and the limited access to famialial resources that you might have to overcome for which the straight white male would not

                Assuming you know something about someone only due their skin color is pretty fucking racist. That includes assuming a white person has familial resources, or assuming that a non white doesn’t.

                It’s odd sitting here having to explain that stereotypes are bad.

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            No no, you can’t give someone a bigger piece of pie unless it comes from my piece of the pie! /s

            (Or we could just make a bigger pie)