• FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I’m not sure about Norway but here in Estonia the vast vast majority of cars sold are used. New cars are rarely sold due to the price.

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      8 months ago

      All cars were new cars once. If a majority of new cars are EVs, then it is only a matter of time before most used cars are as well.

      It’s not (just) a matter of money. Even in China a third of new vehicles are EVs, and Estonia is much richer than China.

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        8 months ago

        The problem is that replacing the battery in an EV costs as much as a new car which is something you need to do if it’s 10 years old.

        Even if 1/3 of new cars sold is an EV that will take decades for any meaningful adoption since new cars are incredibly uncommon and affordable replacemt batteries don’t yet exist.

        I don’t mind car makers making EVs but it seems like a pretty reasonable choice from Toyota not to enter that market yet.

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          8 months ago

          You don’t have to replace the battery every 10 years. LiFePo cells can do more than 3000 cycles before going below 85% rated capacity. CATL has been making these cheaply for years.

          Toyota has been actively sabotaging EV transitions for decades. Of course they’re against the thing they don’t want.

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            8 months ago

            I can currently find exactly zero used cars with a LiFePo battery here. I looked around more and it doesn’t seem to be even used by any car brands that exist here so I have no way to check how expensive a replacement would be. I’m assuming there’s a reason it’s not used but I’m not going to dig into battery research over a lemmy post.

            If those batteries solve all the issues leading to used EVs being feasible then that would be great in about a decade or two if they adobt that right now.