EDIT: I kinda solved it by installing Wayland (with Nvidia card, Ouch!) to replace Xorg. Not sure if this is gonna last though. Perhaps Manjaro is the one I’m gonna throw out FIRST if anything happens from now on.
What should be the first line of defense? Timeshift?
This happened after I installed AUR package masterpdfeditor and 2 applications from github (some hashing algorithm programs, I think they were “Dilithium” and “Latice-based-cryptography-main”, one of them was provided by NIST.)
If using GUI: I login, black screen for few seconds, then back at login screen.
If going to ctrl+alt+f2, login successful, then startx, see picture provided (higher quality).
I tried adding a new user, but result is the same.
I have a live usb to do the Timeshift. (I can also chroot if necessary… But I’m not extremely professional)
ah classic mistake of installing AUR packages on manjaro. been there done that. check your logs and search for errors, it probably overwrote/deleted some xorg config that you must either manually add back or regenerate. sorry i can’t help further im a linux noobie but that was my issue when this happened to me.
Why would a package called “masterpdfcreator” overwrite the x conf? I don’t think the AUR packages have anything to do with the problem.
ah sorry it’s more accurate to say it can “break” your xorg config cause that was my case. looking at this package it has libgl as one of its dependencies. as i have said i’m not familiar with how exactly it works but it can probably mess with your graphics drivers.
Most stable Manjaro experience
Start by not using Manjaro. Seriously this won’t be the first time this happens to you. It’s not a great distro. Consider EndevourOS if you want Arch without the command line install.
Have you even looked at the picture they posted or do you just reply with nonsense by default when you see the word “Manjaro”?
Yeah the picture looks exactly like my experiences with Manjaro. Thanks
I’ve always suspected that Manjaro detractors might be mostly Linux beginners who do stupid stuff then give up at the first sign of trouble.
You’re not exactly doing your best to change my mind.
The AUR is intended to be used with the official Arch repos; Manjaro repos are often weeks or sometimes even up to a month behind. Even the Manjaro devs put a warning for this reason.
So what if they’re behind. AUR packages have dependency requirements too. They won’t install if dependencies are not met. Unless you force it — but that wouldn’t be their fault.
So how can an AUR package break something if it’s not installed?
One of your steps should be to throw Manjaro in the trash and install EndeavourOS instead.
Classic, never fix anything, just change to <my preferred distro>, you wouldnt have experienced any problems, ever
I would usually agree but Manjaro is a broken piece of garbage. Use Arch or Endeavour if you want to gain experience on an arch based distro.
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If that’s what you think then you don’t understand why people complain about manjaro. It’s the 1 week package delay to “ensure testing”. There have been bugs that were released in arch and a week later in manjaro, no fix nothing. Also, if you use manjaro and the AUR, which they promote as a possibility, you might have a versioning issue where the AUR package expects packages a week faster than manjaro gets them, and that can actually, very easily, break your system.
Endeavour IS arch but not arch with a shiny wrapper and a shiny forum, that’s good, Manjaro is NOT that.
EOS is basically arch but has some packages of theirs that are pulled from their repos, but every other package comes directly from arch, any update comes from arch and so on. They basically reinstall some utility programs and leave you to your devices, no bullshit.
If you want to compare Eos to anything, try garuda, those two are very similar to my understanding.
This issue is more than likely caused by Manjaro itself.
So yeah, probably would not have experienced this issue on EndeavourOS, that’s right.
I agree that manjaro is shit, but “your distro is shit” is not helpful advice for someone who wants to get their graphical session back.
I hate to admit it but perhaps it is not such a bad advice…
Of course it’s not, hence why I said “one of your steps”.
As in, get your data back, and then drop Manjaro.
so why would Envdeavor not experience this issue? Does it simply not have the AUR? That’s very unfortunate. Or are they simply not holding back like in
ArchManjaro?Or are they simply not holding back like in Arch?
I’ll assume you mean Manjaro here – Arch doesn’t hold back packages.
And yes, Manjaro holds back packages from the main Arch repos which can break compatibility with the AUR.
EndeavourOS is pretty much literally a GUI installer for Arch.
I’ll assume you mean Manjaro here – Arch doesn’t hold back packages.
ouch, yes, my bad
I think I kinda solved it by installing Wayland. It seems to work, even on my proprietary nvidia drivers
It is a unmodified Arch install that has a prepackaged setup, so you get a running desktop very easily and get the full.power and configurability of Arch
therr is nothing wring with AUR the problem is manjaro holding off arch packages causes massive dependency problems
If you have it setup timeshift should work…
But please know that the AUR + Manjaro is not a supported or recommend combination. The AUR is intended to be used with the official Arch repos; Manjaro repos are often weeks or sometimes even up to a month behind. Even the Manjaro devs put a warning for this reason.
Not only that, the Manjaro base packages often aren’t even built with the same flags as Arch base packages; which is probably what happened here.
Consider using EndeavorOS orarchinstall, else this won’t be the last time something like this happens.Manjaro is not up-to-date with Arch repos. Using AUR in Manjaro is a huge mistake.
If you wanna use AUR, I suggest you to go all in with Arch itself
However I still recommend you to use AUR as less as possible, cause too many AUR can mess even with Arch
I’m using 75 AUR packages without any issues and I’ve been using Manjaro for 4 years. But I’m really worried now that you’ve said that. 😬 When should I begin to expect AUR trouble? Does it happen on the 5th year? What if I reinstall, do I get another 4 years?
However I still recommend you to use AUR as less as possible, cause too many AUR can mess even with Arch
Based on what?
Based on Arch USER Repository.
AUR packages are maintained by users and can install and overwrite packages in your system and if you install AUR enough, you’ll certainly install a package that corrupts your system.
That’s ridiculous. You can blindly install crap that breaks your system on any distro. Just don’t blindly install things from the AUR and you’ll be fine.
Definitely can. But AUR make it easier, once it’s not officially supported and has permission to install things on your base system with root access.
It’s kinda the same as you download a deb file and install it or use ppa on debian-based distro. All of that can make your system breaks, but in other distros the general recommendation is to use official repos always when the app is available on repos
Right – so like I said, nothing to do with the AUR and everything to do with being smart about what software you install.
I’m not usually one to blame the distro but… as another comment here has stated, “Most stable manjaro experience”. Try EndeavorOS, it’s manjaro but not bad.
Don’t use startx to start X, use the display manager: systemctl restart lightdm
It said I not found or something. I’ll try again tomorrow for full error message
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Have you checked the log files under /var/log/xorg.0…log?
Also see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#Troubleshooting
If you want to get your graphical session back quickly, maybe try setting up GNOME with wayland (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GNOME#Wayland_sessions)
I second the wayland option. Then you at least have a working gui with all your settings and recent work intact while you try to find the glitch in your Xorg install.
You can also check /var/log/pacman.log for the packages you installed, then pacman -Ql the packages to list what files they might have changed
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Check
/etc/hostnameThis is based on the image, the best you can do it check the logs like other comments said, it’s better if the error is identified through the log.
How did you go about installing the other two packages from git? Do you know what directory they were first cloned to? Did you build from source or run an executable like an appimage? Did any of these actions occur prior to the install of masterpdfeditor?
Run this before startx maybe:
xhost +local:Check your RAM for errors.
If nothing else, run weston. It’s not an amazing wayland server, but it’s something.
