so, background, I’m currently workshopping a Disco Elysium/Touhou Project fusion fanfic (Disco concept, Gensokyo setting) and, since I already pay for NovelAI for recreational purposes, I figured I’d generate some character/skill portraits for it to accentuate the presentation of it.

Here's some of the better ones as of yet, alongside the one in the thumbnail.

However, I am conflicted on actually using them.

I figured I’d outsource the question because I’ve been thinking about it for a week and am no closer to resolving the internal contradiction. Here’s what I’ve been thinking thus far:

Concerns: I have moral concerns about the scraping and the ‘ask-for-forgiveness-not-permission’ philosophy that is central to these major generative models. I also think, in the context of it’s use within the hands of the bourgeoisie, AI is used as a tool of displacement and discipline. I also know that there is generally a negative perception of people who use AI image generation, for mostly valid reasons as most self-proclaimed ‘AI artists’ are coomers/techbros who make it a mission to discredit and disparage human artists. Even though I don’t fall into this category, I’m worried that I’d open up a vector of harassment where there otherwise wouldn’t be one if I include them, and I don’t want to deal with that.

Benefits: It adds to the vibes of the fic, and I think there’s a tangible enhancement with adding visuals to it. I also like what I’ve output so far.

Caveats: I don’t plan to make money off of this. I don’t have the disposable income to commission portraits for what ultimately is a fanwork that I don’t plan to profit off of and don’t have enough investment in to sink money into. The concerns are specifically what are holding me back in adding them, because it would be nice to add a visual component.

I just wanted to get a vibe check on here for this use case. Want to see if it will help me resolve the internal contradiction I’ve tangled myself in shrug-outta-hecks


edit: I’ll err on the side of caution and drop the visual aspect of it, thanks for the feedback

  • booty [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    I’d never willingly download, share, recommend, or speak positively about something I knew involved AI-generated images. My stance on this sort of thing is always just get an artist to create the art you want. You’re already paying for this shitty stolen AI-generated garbage, pay an artist.

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      You’re already paying for this shitty stolen AI-generated garbage, pay an artist.

      acting like the cost of a cloud based ai image generator is anywhere near equivalent to commissioning a dozen+ portraits from an artist is very disingenuous

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        It does cost more to get an artist to make art for you than to get an algorithm to steal art for you, yes. That isn’t a very good argument for it being ok.

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          when the argument is “if you’re already paying for x, you should just pay for y instead”, x being much less expensive than y is a very important factor in that argument

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            9 months ago

            My point is that paying any amount of money at all for AI-generated theft is bad. I don’t care if they’re paying you, it still sucks.

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            Idk what about Fiver? Although it’s probably full of “AI” “artists” now.