• Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    It’s possible to criticize Biden and be unhappy about his age without acting like him and trump are equally as bad, which a lot of “centrists” do to justify not voting. Those people are the ones being criticized in this post.

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      9 months ago

      Yep. Trump voters don’t give a shit. They’ll vote no matter what. The people pushing the idea of not voting out of protest or whatever aren’t doing it honestly, at least not the first ones. The first ones are trying to get Trump elected. They might convince some fools to also push the same message without following the agenda.

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        9 months ago

        The problem is, and why Reagan made a rule to not do it, is that when you call out your own side you give your enemy a fucktonne of ammo to use against you and sway moderates.

        Look what happened to Al Franken and we’ve DESPERATELY needed him these last few years.

        I love Jon Stewart and I really enjoyed his most recent segment where he calls out both sides, making it CLEAR that trumpty dumpty is the worst offender, but it’s already being used to make the moderates think that dems are abandoning Biden.

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          9 months ago

          Look what happens when you refuse to call out your own side, the GOP has become a complete clown show because of it.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, but is anyone actually saying they’re equally, “bad,” or just that they’re both too old for this? I’ve heard people say that both shouldn’t be running but they’ll vote for Biden, or that Trump is fine and Biden is senile and criminal and part of the cabal (or whatever they believe these days), but I’ve never heard anyone say, “both are too old, therefore they’re equal and I won’t vote for either.” That seems like strawman meant to delegitimize criticism of Biden’s age.

        • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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          9 months ago

          I’ve seen lots of people accused of saying that when they give any criticism of Biden, but I’ve yet to actually see someone actually say that. At least my personal experience is like 10:0 of people accusing a specific person of saying that to the person actually saying that. That kind of POV I saw a lot more during Obama vs Romney, but not Biden vs Trump.

          Just because someone says they’re not voting for someone who actively helps fund genocide doesn’t mean they’re saying the major alterative is equal. Just that neither major candidate passes the extremely low bar to be willing to vote for them.

    • Red Army Dog Cooper@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      I am not a centrist by any strech of the imagination, but within a pretty slim margin of error just as bad as each other. What has biden even done in his term that is a net benefit.