• ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    what the actual fuck. isn’t this borderline entrapment? how is this legal in any way possible?? actual police actually grooming a literal child, just to arrest him for doing the things they literally groomed him to do! holy shit this is unbelievable

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      It’s totally entrapment.

      The victims usually don’t have the capacity to mount a sufficient legal defense.

      In you remember Kellyanne Conway’s Bowling Green Massacre the incident that was based on was similar. FBI gaslighted three refugee inmigrants in order to get them to aid and abet a fictional terror plot so they could be charged with terrorism, so that FBI could assert it was stopping terrorism.

      FBI creates a dozen such cases every year, specifically targetting vulnerable people with mental health problems or who are clinically retarded. They end up with really long prison sentences.

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      5 months ago

      That’s SOP for a large percentage of FBI terrorism investigations that DON’T begin after an attack.

      Whenever you read “FBI foiled plot”, dig into it and you’ll probably find similar behavior, or a CI who intentionally molded the terrorist for them.

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          Well, shit.That’s on me for not googling the story.

          Luckily for me, the AFP is basically a junior FBI in regards to their aspirational goals of running a police state on behalf of the Aussie elite and Liberal party donor class.

          NSW anti-terror police aren’t far behind either, even if their brand of shitfuckery is a bit petty relative to the AFP, or FBI.

  • Flumpkin@slrpnk.net
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    5 months ago

    This is literal child abuse. Really how does any FBI agent or supervisor think this is a desirable outcome? What kind of people are they?

    • Mistic@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Our cops in Russia have been doing that for years as well. They groom whole groups of teens like that. Absolutely mental.

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      Humans have a state that is driven to hurt people. When a person who’s not a psychopath finds their self in that state, their first move is to find justifications for the damage they want to do. That’s how non-psychopaths indulge in the urge to hurt people.

      Law enforcement, by being a profession that involves hurting people for the right reasons, lends itself very easily to providing justification for hurting people for the wrong reasons.

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        5 months ago

        Thanks, this is an interesting explanation. Do you mean sadism? Or something slightly different, a need to see justice done, like “justice porn”? Or something like wanting to see some kind of order in the world through violence?

        I think there is a very primitive drive in humans who want to “remove the weak link” and drive out the village idiot or “retard”. An ugly reproductive strategy that helped the tribe to stay stronger which explains some impulses for bullying. This is of course unscientific speculation.

        But I can imagine that impulse might have played a role to go after this autistic child.

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    Cops need to gather intelligence from a kid with an IQ of 70. When I want to be more intelligent I gather information from people who are smarter than me too!

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      5 months ago

      “How do you do it bro?”

      “Well, my mind might be limited but I’m also good, so people help me”

      “What is this good you speak of? Is that your word for legal?”

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    I’m sorry, I seem to lack the base, stupid cruelty to comprehend this. I’m more fluent in intentful, intelligent cruelty.

    What is the purpose…the…the end goal of making a kid do an illegal he wasn’t previously planning to do and arresting him for doing it?

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      5 months ago

      To hurt. the fucking. kid.

      That was the point. The world makes more sense when you acknowledge the existence of evil.

      It makes even more sense when you realize 90% of evil is committed by people who think of themselves as good, people who refuse to acknowledge their shadow and hence become its puppet.

  • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The only person at the senate inquiry into this that had any balls was Greens Senator David Shoebridge. Got his mic cut off for politely telling a cop to basically go fuck himself.

    This is why I always put the Greens first on my ballot, in both state & federal and for both upper & lower houses. They’re the only viable leftist party in Australia imo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbuFEl4M78

  • Adalast@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    That’s not grooming, that is the definition of entrapment. Like, if you look it up in a law textbook it could use that as an example.

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      Unfortunately, courts only consider it entrapment if someone is forced to do it. Such as “do this or we send you to prison for something else.” Coercing someone to do something out of their own apparent ‘free will’ gets them off the entrapment hook.