So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can’t fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male workforce he does work with several women who have no idea what he is. He literally followed a woman home, broke into her house, and raped her. Him working here puts every female employee at risk. How is that not an unsafe working environment? How is it at even legal to employ him anywhere where he will have contact with women?

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5628·
    8 months ago

    Because he’s either innocent until proven guilty or he’s served his time.

    presumed innocent until proven guilty… Is a procedural doctrine for courts. It doesn’t change the reality of whether or not the individual committed a crime.

    You murder someone, you’re a murderer, regardless of if you have really good attourneys or you’re really good at hiding the body, etc. the presumption of innocence it to protect the rights of accused people; but has no bearing on actual guilt- even if the court of law finds them not guilty.

    while the guy presumably has served his time and deserves fair treatment… the OP is also justified in raising this concern with management. Not that management will do anything, because they’ve already determined it’s not a problem. They will, perhaps, accommodate the OP in scheduling them on opposite shifts or placing them away from him.

    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
      286·
      8 months ago

      It doesn’t change the reality of whether or not the individual committed a crime.

      But YOU cannot know that “reality” unless (either you are the judge or) you have knowledge of the court’s verdict.

      Calling someone a criminal without any such knowledge is a false accusation.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1023·
        8 months ago

        Calling someone a criminal without any such knowledge is a false accusation.

        Wut?

        So. Carrol wasn’t raped by Trump, until 2023?

        And therefore Carrol was falsely accusing Trump of raping her until the court made the decision?

        Sorry. That’s bullshit. Also, did you catch the part where he has multiple convictions for rape, apparently?

        The point I’m trying to make is that a company’s HR team are not a court of law and don’t- and in fact, can’t- operate on the standards you are asking.

        They can k my make a reasonable attempt at being fair, and will usually end up doing what’s “best” for the company. They don’t even have to be right. Nevermind moral.

        What those standards are basically impossible, considering what you would find moral, what I would find moral; and what… let’s say law-and-order-died-red-republicans would find moral.

        What the company has a legal obligation to do? Protect their employees from a hostile work environment. How that goes… I don’t know. Whose right here and whose not… I don’t know.