Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations
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The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can’t make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can’t make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

    • Patch@feddit.ukEnglish
      6·
      9 months ago

      Solar costs whatever it costs to buy, install and maintain a solar PV farm, which is not nothing.

      If you’re going to build a solar PV farm, you’re obviously going to want to sell the power you generate in whatever way is most profitable.

      At the moment, it’s still magnitudes more profitable to sell solar back to the grid than it is to feed it into an inefficient hydrolysis plant, create a load of hydrogen and oxygen, and then move it by leaky tanker somewhere to sell it.

      • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        9 months ago

        These are designed to be setup and turned into fueling stations, not creating the hydrogen and shipping it elsewhere. You still need substations near superchargers, which requires a lot of power lines to be run. In the middle of nowhere they’re pointless to build.

    • ExLisper@linux.communityEnglish
      51·
      9 months ago

      Jesus, of course it’s not free. Solar panels are not free, the land you put ten on is not free, construction is not free and the infrastructure needed to supply energy during the nigh (storage or another source of energy) is not free. How is this not obvious?

      • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        9 months ago

        Lol yes because a super charge station is free…and so is the land and the wires and the sub station to get it out in the middle of nowhere… totally more economical to put in a fucking substation for superchargers in the middle of nowhere than to use solar hydrogen lol

        • ExLisper@linux.communityEnglish
          3·
          9 months ago

          WTF are you talking about? So solar if free because ‘solar hydrogen’? You’re not making any sense.

          • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            9 months ago

            Solar energy is free, I’m not the one that’s made a claim that it’s not. I’m also not the one that has zero understanding on how superchargers work…all of you keep thinking they can just dump one in the middle of rural America and it’ll just magically work. You don’t seem to understand the huge amount of power draw these things have.

            • ExLisper@linux.communityEnglish
              2·
              9 months ago

              You don’t seem to understand that the only thing solar energy does for free is to heat the ground which is kind of useless for moving cars,

                • ExLisper@linux.communityEnglish
                  2·
                  9 months ago

                  Yes, because the hydrogen just appears there. No machinery needed. It just forms pushes cars. For free. Amazing!