When you buy a new PC—whether a high-end gaming device or an entry-level laptop—you expect it to be clean from the start. However, Windows 11 typically comes with at least a few unwanted pre-installed apps, called bloatware. How should you remove bloatware from your PC?

      • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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        10 months ago

        thatd be a great solutuon though.

        windows aint getting better with its antiuser garbage, folks, might as well switch to something ours.

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          Sure, just ignore the entire point of the community. Great “”“solution”“” bud

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            10 months ago

            Yes, it is a great solution. I never had to deal with Microsoft bullshit again when I realized no amount of tuning Windows will stop them fom reinstalling all the bloatware next update.

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              “Got computer problems? Just don’t use one! Problem solved.” ~ umbrella

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                10 months ago

                thats not at ALL what i said.

                i said you dont have to get assfucked by microsoft to use a computer.

                here it is spelled out for you.

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                  10 months ago

                  It’s a simplified version of your argument. Considering this is the Windows 11 community it’s not only just stupid, it’s also utterly distasteful, to even bother suggesting Linux.

                  If you can’t understand how this is a simplified version of your ‘argument’, then that’s the core issue. At least try to comprehend how you’re in the wrong here.

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        Being mad that Linux would work for more people than who already realize it would?! Super original. Suggestions of Linux are typically universally loved!!

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          That is not at all the issue. This is the Windows 11 community. By bringing up Linux it entirely misses the whole point of the community. Not everything has to be about Linux, regardless of your feelings about it. It’s like saying “all lives matter”.

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            10 months ago

            Microsoft won’t stop enshittifying Windows reardless of how you feel about it. Or how unfamiliar Linux feels for you.

            You already need an insane amount of scripting just to make it usable.

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            10 months ago

            It’s like saying “all lives matter”.

            I think this is the worst comparison in human history. Props.

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          Not when it’s being shoved down their throat in every other post. Not everyone is interested in switching and answering people’s questions with “lol why you not on Linux just switch!” Are a waste of people’s time and not likely to get people to really switch. In fact, being pushy will reinforce people deciding NOT to switch.

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            Every other post? It’s almost like it’s popular. I wonder why? Maybe, it’s better. Just maybe.

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            I never claimed it was a successful strategy. In fact my only point is that people react to it the same way every time. Annoyed. No matter how the message is delivered or when it is

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    I wondered if I could find a comment on this post not related to Linux. Nope. Classic Lemmy.

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    10 months ago

    How do i permanently uninstall edge? Other than just moving to Linux?

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      So Microsoft was fined a ton of money for making IE not uninstallable, and they’re now doing that shit again? Surprised, but not really

      Edit: I read about it on Wikipedia to refresh my memory and wow, yeah they got off quite easy, writing their own terms and also having them expire after a few years. As if an established monopoly will behave itself a few years later because… it learned its lesson or something?

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        We’re they fined? I heard they were penalized with <checks notes> nothing. And boy, did they learn a lesson.

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          Yikes… I remembered them being forced by the government to do stuff. I just read about the outcome again and it’s so fucked up… Yeah you are right:

          At the initial trial, the United States District Court for the District of Columbia ruled that Microsoft’s actions constituted unlawful monopolization under Section 2 of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890,[2] but the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit partially overturned that judgment.[1] The two parties later reached a settlement in which Microsoft agreed to modify some of its business practices.[3]

          On November 1, 2001, the DOJ reached an agreement with Microsoft to settle the case. The proposed settlement required Microsoft to share its application programming interfaces with third-party companies and appoint a panel of three people who would have full access to Microsoft’s systems, records, and source code for five years in order to ensure compliance.[30] However, the DOJ did not require Microsoft to change any of its code nor did it prevent Microsoft from tying other software with Windows in the future.

          Microsoft’s obligations under the settlement, as originally drafted, expired on November 12, 2007.[33] However, Microsoft later “agreed to consent to a two-year extension of part of the Final Judgments” dealing with communications protocol licensing, and stated that if the government later wished to extend those aspects of the settlement as far as 2012, it would not object. The government made clear that the extension was intended only to give the relevant part of the settlement “the opportunity to succeed for the period of time it was intended to cover”, rather than being due to any “pattern of willful and systematic violations”.[34]

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.

          So yeah, they agreed to do some stuff temporarily, for the appearance that something was done. They should have been fined a LOT and also forced to allow uninstallation of IE WITHOUT A FUCKING EXPIRATION DATE

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      I have some scheduled tasks that make sure it doesn’t come back, if you don’t go to pretty ridiculous lengths, it’ll be back after every update.

      My scheduled task largely just nukes the edge directory every time the computer boots and or I log in.

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      CTT Windows Utility

      Uninstalled it months ago and haven’t seen it since. You can also set updates to only install security updates 4 days after release and feature updates after 2 years of release.

      This and StartAllBack are my answers when I hear “just install Linux and ditch windows”

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      10 months ago

      Unfortunately I think Windows re-installs it every major update so you’ll need to be running a tool to uninstall it each time

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        it does, and it sucks. I think i just live with removing the shortcuts/links and trying to forget about it. My personal PC is linux now, but this is what I do on my wife and kids’ computers.

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    Win10Privacy is my go-to to quickly and effectively de-bloat about 80% of Windows 10 or 11.

    Downside is that it’s quite powerful, so much so it’s not really meant for non-experts, as you run a very real risk of bricking (or at least crippling) the system with some settings.

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    Uninstall 11 and install 10. Just did it on my son’s laptop because he woke up without any ability to use his PS5 controller when nothing was changed in the middle of the night. Windows 11 sucks.

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        10 months ago

        I use Linux (and Windows) and even I find this kind of thing irritating. I figure if someone wants to know about Linux they’ll ask and I will try to be as helpful as I can.

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        Not really people don’t try Linux because of comments like yours. Suggesting an OS which doesn’t ship bloat isn’t the elitism you think it is