• Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    They’ve long been quite mediocre judging by the incredible long hours of those working there and shit quality of basically any technical framework they put out.

    They have shoved tons of resources into some things (such as Android) and thus at times succeeded (though usually they don’t), but in terms of quality from a technical point of view (i.e. software design, technical architecture) their stuff looks like it was hammered together by a bunch of junior devs.

    Lucky timing followed by some smart strategical decisions (and, seemingly, lots of money together with a throw everything at the wall and see what sticks management strategy) are what made Google, not excellence.

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      It’s unfair to discount Google’s early days. They DID have technical excellence. Search was leagues better than the competition. Gmail was an amazing leap from other providers. Android started as trash but improved rapidly. The Nexus line of phones was amazing. Google Maps was a huge improvement over what else existed. They did a lot right.

      I can’t pinpoint exactly when the fall started. Was it when Pichai became CEO? When they removed “don’t be evil?” I remember a speech Pichai gave where he talked about “more wood behind fewer arrows” as why they were getting rid of employee child projects, so maybe it was that.

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        I can’t pinpoint exactly when the fall started.

        In my opinion, it was when anti-trust laws did not trigger upon Google acquiring YouTube because Google Video couldn’t compete. That meant it was open season on start-ups that otherwise might have grown to kill Google or other big tech companies like Apple, Facebook and Microsoft.

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            See List of mergers and acquisitions by Alphabet for the graveyard list. Sorting by Price helps. Some other notable companies that Google acquired rather than compete with:

            • Nest Labs (home automation)
            • DropCam (home automation)
            • DoubleClick (advertisement)
            • FitBit (wearables)
            • Waze (GPS navigation)
            • Skybox Imaging (satellite mapping)
            • Like.com (shopping)
            • Meebo (social network)
            • GrandCentral (VOIP)
            • Picasa (photographry)
            • Tenor (GIF search)
            • PhotoMath (LLM; became Bard)
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        Android started as trash

        It started off by beating the pants off of iOS in terms of features, but was not nearly as polished.

        Definitely not trash. But also not polished for the masses.

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          And they acquired it in the first place.

          To their credit (or at least the Android team), they quickly moved it from Linux-on-a-handheld to a real thing.

          Android still isn’t as polished as iOS, but it’s a far more capable system.

          And that’s good. iOS has it’s place, as does Android.

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      Notable: Google Home can no longer set timers and does not understand what “stop playing” means. It’s basically only usable for asking for music to be played since it has declined so heavily.

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        I just tried to reproduce your comment. Google home set a timer for me and play/paused my TV (chromecast with google tv) I don’t have streaming music to test it on. I do agree that the quality of Google home has gotten terrible though. It takes a lot more prompting to do simple things and has stopped some scheduling tasks as far as I can tell.

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          When I ask it to set a timer, it tells me that it doesn’t understand me. If I ask it to stop playing, it tells me that it doesn’t understand me. I have to just say “stop”. It also used to transfer whatever you were listening to between speakers, but cannot understand me anymore if I ask for that.