An Arizona lawmaker who signed on to be a “fake elector” for Donald Trump after the former president lost his bid for a second term has introduced a bill that would allow members of the statehouse to overturn future election results that they don’t like.
The bill, formally known as Senate Concurrent Resolution 1014 and sponsored by state Sen. Anthony Kern, seeks to bypass the popular vote altogether.
“[I]t is the responsibility of the Arizona Secretary of State to certify elections, including elections for President of the United States, but the sole authority to appoint presidential electors is granted to the Legislature,” the four-line bill reads. Therefore, it concludes, “[T]he Legislature, and no other official, shall appoint presidential electors in accordance with the United States Constitution.”
Giving the legislature absolute power to control Arizona’s electoral college votes, regardless of who won the popular vote, would disenfranchise millions of Arizonans.
Insane that these people are still in office
That’s what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum.
That’s what happens when you don’t hang or imprison seditoinists.
id prefer the government not lock people in cages or kill them.
I 100% agree with you, actually. That’s a noble goal. But you will always end up being taken advantage of for this belief by people who will deserve imprisonment or execution.
There is a fun read by H. Beam Piper called lone star planet. In it citizen’s were allowed to assassinate government officials given the caveat they surrendered immediately. They are then brought to trial and if they are able to prove the official was doing more harm than good to the populace they were let go with no charges.
So that’s the most un-American crap I’ve read all day… The power belongs to the people damn it!
It goes to show how much of the US electoral system is based on essentially good faith and convention.
Trump has shown that our entire system is based on nothing more than good faith and convention. Not only does the Constitution not provide any guidance whatsoever about what to do when those in charge refuse to exercise that good faith and convention, but the past few years have shown that even the slightest deviation from that good faith and convention can cause the entire system to come crashing down.
If it comes between abandoning conservatism, or abandoning democracy, republicans will 100% of the time abandon democracy.
As vile as it is, it’s in line with the US Constitution. The state legislature have the authority to select electors in the manner they see fit. All currently use some kind of popular vote to select the electors, but they don’t have to do it that way. In fact, in Bush v Gore the Court hinted that the method to determine the electors could even be changed after the November election.
Prove it.
“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy,”
We are here.
We have been here for many years now.
Fucking fascists are downright enemies of democracy
I highly doubt this would ever pass its clearly just insane. It’s basically asking for a civil war in Arizona to start…
I’m not saying it’s not batshit insane, but is it any worse than the “where’s your papers, brown person?” “Immigration” law from the same state?
I wouldn’t put it past Arizona Republicans to pass this.
Yes, it’s worse. One authoritarian policy is bad, but the scope of the damage is limited. The damage caused by undermining democracy enables an unlimited amount of authoritarian policies.
Hmm, good point. When you put like that, I agree.
Gee, I distinctly remember a certain group doing similar “Papers, please” stops awhile back. And they held a lot of similar views, too… Hmm
Exactly.
They can’t pass anything alone. This is performative bullshit for fascists.
Whether it would pass is beside the point. The fact that a lawmaker had the inclination, let alone the audacity, to introduce it in the first place – and especially that he hasn’t immediately been forced to resign as a result – is 1000% a severe indictment of how diseased our society has become.
I wouldn’t put that above us. This state is so red they could effortlessly pull off the mental gymnastics necessary to turn this into a win for the people. Anyone on Lemmy that lives in Arizona needs to start protesting on the weekends. Make this the second city that doesn’t sleep, because our legislature can’t keep the boards on their windows intact.
Lemme guess, they’re calling it the “Every Vote Counts!” bill, yes?
Forever grateful that the cold of MN kicks out the crazies, even if they grew up here. Kern can shove this bill right back up his kernhole
https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/56leg/2R/bills/SCR1014P.htm
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here
Republicans will never stop trying to steal elections
Why even have an election then?
So we can pretend that they represent the will of the people rather than the will of those in power who know how to game the system. A worse version of what it already is now.
What does the state constitution say about this?
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I mean, fine. I live in Arizona and I have a crowbar that does let me shatter kneecaps.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That looks more like Bidens face with Trumps hair, than it does Trump. What an odd photo. Has he had Botox recently or something?
Uncanny valley. I wonder if it’s AI?
Yea there’s no way that’s a real picture of Trump. The neck alone is all wrong.
He’s not orange enough
