• roscoe@startrek.website
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    9 months ago

    Maybe you could refresh my memory with an episode or some more details because I don’t remember it that way. I remember Adira stating their pronouns, everyone accepting that and using those pronouns and never mentioning it again. I’m pretty damn sure there wasn’t some Jordan Peterson type that refused to get with the program.

    I’m also pretty sure there wasn’t any focus on Stamets’ and Culber’s “gay” relationship. Their relationship was part of several story elements but the gay aspect was not. Please remind me of any plots involving their relationship that would have to be changed if one of them was a woman.

    You are the one making a big deal about these characters because you can’t get over their simple existence.

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      Adira: I’ve never felt like a “she” or-or a “her,” so…I would prefer “they” or “them” from now on.

      Stamets: Okay.

      And that was the end of it. Horrific, isn’t it? I’m sure Nacktmull would have blocked the characters for trolling if they could.

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        Also, I think it’s worth pointing out that Adira was from Earth, which at that point had left the Federation, and had become seemingly a much more paranoid place. So that Adira was uncomfortable and worried about what folks might think of them seems reasonable, since they weren’t used to living in the Federation, where being nonbinary isn’t something anyone should be worried about sharing with others.

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      9 months ago

      You intentionally don´t understand the most simple arguments and just keep asking me to put in more argumentative work while all you do is dismissing my points independently of their validity. I am tired of talking to you and consider you a troll, who I will ignore from now on.

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        No, I’m asking for an example. Just one.

        I’m not asking for any more arguments. I understand your position completely.

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          9 months ago

          I just gave two examples, stop the trolling or get blocked …

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            9 months ago

            No, you made a claim. A claim that, so far, is unsupported.

            I’m simply asking for one scene, outside of your own mind, where these things actually happened.

            I only watched it once. I could be wrong. Please refresh my memory.

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              9 months ago

              It´s not unsupported since I gave two examples. Stop trolling.

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                Saying something happened is not an example.

                Which episode has “a 2020 style pronoun talk?”

                Which episode has a plot involving Stamets and Culber that wouldn’t be essentially unchanged if it was a heterosexual relationship?

                I will go rewatch them now and come back and apologize if these things actually exist.