• @anteaters@feddit.de
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    875 months ago

    Calling Germany the 3rd best for digital nomads is the biggest indicator that this list can go directly into the garbage.

    • 🐑🇸 🇭 🇪 🇪 🇵 🇱 🇪🐑
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      375 months ago

      Yeah lmao our laws regarding the internet are utter bogshit. And I don’t mean censorship. We straight up have outdated copyright and usage laws made by geriatric old politicians who have no internet understanding

      • @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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        5 months ago

        Also, your broadband and mobile network is also pretty bad as far as Europe goes, especially compared to all your neighbours.

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            45 months ago

            The business offers are pretty good. Its like 15€/M for real Unlimited and full Speed. And even has 2 Sim cards included.
            But the reception and speed you get are not very good overall once you leave cities, the best provider is only a bit better than the worst…
            thanks CDU, having to spend lots of money for frequency rights really helped get better service.

          • @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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            35 months ago

            That’s sad to hear. I had hoped that with cities such as Berlin, Munich and Hamburg, the Internet infrastructure would have improved

            • @MrMakabar@feddit.de
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              45 months ago

              It imporved, but new software also requires better internet all the time. Hence it has to improve much faster. The good part is fiber is starting to be deployed on scale finally. Also 5g is actually deployed much faster then the previous standards, which makes catching up possible. However a lot of service providers do not offer it and it costs way more then in other EU countries.

    • HobbitFoot
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      165 months ago

      Is digital nomad the new expat?

      Kind of.

      Think of it like a retiree trying to find a place to live where their salary isn’t tied to the local economy. It opens up a lot of places with a relatively low living expenses and high quality of life.

      They are immigrants, but they are immigrants with money.

    • @crispy_kilt@feddit.de
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      85 months ago

      Immigrant is the word for poor not-white people, silly. White rich people are called eXpAtS, don’t you know?

      /s

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      My understanding is that digital nomads are basically just long-term tourists rather than immigrants; they don’t get visas that allow permanent residency or anything. Iceland’s digital nomad visa, for example, only lets you stick around for 6 months, and you can’t renew it more than once a year. So you really do have to be somewhat nomadic, and travel to a different country.

        • @geissi@feddit.de
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          65 months ago

          Immigrant suggests desire for permanent residence though.

          I’d rather say “long term” than permanent.
          You can immigrate to a country, work there for 10 years, then emigrate again.

        • @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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          25 months ago

          Most of the digital nomads I know end up settling somewhere at some point, moving around all the time gets tiring after a while

    • @sunbytes@lemmy.world
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      15 months ago

      I always thought it was about being Nomadic, so you’re constantly moving.

      So more like a permanent tourist, who is just doing their working hours during the holiday.

      One week here, two weeks there etc.

      I work with people who do this, so I know it exists.

  • @Clbull@lemmy.world
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    I’d actually argue against (at least Western and Northern) Europe for digital nomads, purely because you could move to somewhere in the developing world and live an incredibly comfortable lifestyle thanks to a much lower cost of living. Your mileage will vary based on what languages you speak, of course.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      115 months ago

      The developing world has the problem of being… well, developing though. And the dictatorships.

    • @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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      85 months ago

      Living in the developing world brings its own kind of issues, medical emergencies for instance, as well as the English proficiency around you (which is probably one of the reasons the top 3 countries are DK, DE and NL)

        • @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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          65 months ago

          Probably region dependent, but the cliche seems to be that when asked, Germans say “they don’t speak English very well”, while actually having a quite good level (based on what visiting English speakers say, anyway)

    • HobbitFoot
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      25 months ago

      There are some places of value there.

      Portugal is really cheap and had programs to bring in digital nomads. Berlin has a relatively low cost of living for Germany with decent amenities.

      The split between developing and developed has dissolved.

        • @hanekam@lemmy.world
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          35 months ago

          Berlin can be good value once you’re settled. The problem is usually finding a decent apartment, not paying for it.

          • @zaphod@feddit.de
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            15 months ago

            No, it is/was meme on the other site, in a lot of statistics Portugal aligns more with Eastern Europe. If you go far enough to the east you end up in the west, so Portugal is just a far eastern european country instead of western european.

  • @filister@lemmy.world
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    85 months ago

    No, stay away from Europe, we don’t want you, our real estate prices are already sky high compared to the median wages. So don’t come here!

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    65 months ago

    How can Canada with its winter rank higher than France though.

    • @shartedchocolate@lemmy.world
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      165 months ago

      Uh, yeah I’m gonna say this list can absolutely go into the garbage. Calling Denmark first is pure comedy due to the insane cost of co-working spaces, Denmark being the second worst country to integrate into after Sweden, insane rental deposits and the unreal taxes. (Researcher tax scheme excluded 😉)

    • @sunbytes@lemmy.world
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      Yeah the rent/pay ratio for a lot of jobs won’t work great in the Netherlands.

      Amsterdam is one of the most expensive cities in Europe, so an income from another nation won’t get you very far (unless you’re coming from Australia or London, where pay can be proportionally higher for some roles).

      It would be like living off a small town salary while paying New York rent.