All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what has civilization ever done for us?
I think of that as the cumulative result of natural survival instincts. There’s nothing really very civilized at all about today’s civilization except that we’ve built facades to pretend to ourselves that we’re really “good” people who care about sheltering and feeding others. We actually don’t. WE just want to have more for ourselves everyone else, and kill the people who get in our way. (and that’s true of all humans).
And also not having to worry about freezing to death. Or starving to death. Or dying from injury. Or dying from animals. Etc.
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what has civilization ever done for us?
I think of that as the cumulative result of natural survival instincts. There’s nothing really very civilized at all about today’s civilization except that we’ve built facades to pretend to ourselves that we’re really “good” people who care about sheltering and feeding others. We actually don’t. WE just want to have more for ourselves everyone else, and kill the people who get in our way. (and that’s true of all humans).
I think you’re confusing civilization with utopia
Could be, could be.