• EeeDawg101@lemm.ee
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    Good on the pilots. But seems they wouldn’t have a reason to fly anyway if their planes aren’t loaded up by the ground crews.

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      The economy isn’t teetering on the edge like it was in December. Also, rail is a behind-the-scenes transport mode; it gets some press, but very few people get deliveries directly by train. A rail strike in early December would destroy infrastructure deliveries right before the Christmas holiday but - unless you’re in rail shipping, the average American wouldn’t notice for a couple of weeks.

      UPS, otoh, is very public facing operation and 11 million people receive at least one UPS package a day. That’s not packages - that’s individual business and personal recipients. Enough deliveries to cover every household in the US in under two weeks (that’s just a reference volume: there’s substantial overlap for daily business deliveries, and the delivery figure is worldwide). Every Tom, Dick, and Harriet is going lose their everloving mind if their important paperwork or Amazon packages aren’t delivered. And Biden can then point to the UPS Corporation and say “hey, fellas, that’s a pretty angry mob; you should do something about it,” and “Republicans cut taxes on corporations so that corporations like UPS could hire more people and run more efficiently, but it looks like they’re just keeping all that money for themselves.” And those are much better talking points than “I’m sorry I made inflation worse and tanked the economy. Merry Christmas.”

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        We’ll see! I’m not optimistic, because this will definitely hurt the economy too - though admittedly, not as much as railroads right before Christmas.

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      I’m afraid he will do this. And this will cost him the election.

      I won’t vote for him if he interferes, btw.

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      I thought that was possible only because trains were involved? I know RR employees get weird carve outs on their taxes.

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        Taft-Hartley gives the president the authority to intervene in strikes if they could present a national emergency. Thanks to privatization, UPS is vital enough that it might qualify.

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          While I am not disagreeing with you, were that to happen, it would be definitive proof of the need to nationalize the industry. If we’re so reliant on a private corporation that its poor labor practice can effect a national emergency, then that corporation needs to be nationalized for the good of national security. Now, would they? Definitively not.

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            It is entirely logical to nationalize package deliver! We should have an organization that follows regular routes all across America and delivers whatever packages, etc. people need! We could call it something like UPS; maybe USPS?!

            I get about as many deliveries by parcel post as by UPS. Nothing can stop the US Mail

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              <3 I love the USPS. Even with the DeJoy sabotage (why the fuck is that guy still in office?), they’re still the cheapest and most reliable carrier in my experience.

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              Even FedEx, UPS, etc will hand over packages to USPS if they think after a certain point it’s unprofitable for them to deliver to that address.

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          I heard a similar thing happening with Asiana, pilots unable to go on strike, since they’re declared as essential industry. So instead they are doing a lazy strike. Refusing to accept small technical issues that are otherwise OK to dispatch with. Not giving voluntary extensions on their duty hours.
          Of course the government friendly media is riling up public opinion against them, how they’re causing losses with their difficult behaviour.
          But that’s just an awful argument to make. An essential industry, relying so much on safety, starts losing money the moment the employees start being a little less lenient.

          To be clear, we are talking about safe to fly airplanes. Almost everything on an airplane is redundant, and the manufacturers provide clear instructions what can be inoperative and under what conditions.
          Still, the captain can decide to spend a lot of time on this; do a very extended safety briefing before departure, delaying the flight. Requesting extra fuel over safety concerns. Requesting a different route, because let’s say the weather radar is not working and there’s a small chance of bad weather along the route.