• tabular@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What does South Africa get out of him visiting? Disregarding the idea of peace talks.

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      1 year ago

      They get money and Putin can pretent he still has influence around the world.

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        1 year ago

        Well, it’s not pretending if you’re actually influencing countries with money.

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        1 year ago

        Doesn’t that bet on Putin still being alive in the long term, or Russia’s next leader still being aan ally? Seems short sighted.

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        1 year ago

        It seems you’re not really familar with what’s happening in Africa right now and I can’t fault you for that because Western media has been terrible about reporting about what we’re doing to Africa. (Please excuse me if I’m completely off here, I can only go with what you provided thus far.)

        According to my research a lot of countries on the African continent are actively working towards dedollarization by building independent central bank transfer infrastructure to finally get rid of the shackles of Western neo-colonial soft power and China/Russia/BRICS are a god-sent for them.

        And thinking that Putin doesn’t have influence (and thus, he has to pretend otherwise) is kinda… ignorant?

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          While there has been a lot of talk in Africa about dedollarisation to my knowledge only Zimbabwe went though with it as of now and to mixed results at best. BRICS been stuck since it’s inception as they can’t even agree on what currency they want to use.

          While they do look at China and Russia positively as it’s very beneficial for them at the moment they also try to avoid going all in with either side as to not alienate the west.

          Well if you look around, all the Russia’s allies are mad at them. They refused to help Armenia with Azerbaijan so they turned to Iran and India, Turkey who were always neutral to Russia shifted more to EU/NATO, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan are both looking for different military partners as Russia refused to back either side, Kazakhstan is looking to Turkey instead of Russia, and many more examples. So, no I’m not ignorant. He’s loosing the influence he used to have and focusing on Africa who like you said are eager to take the money is just him trying to pretent he’s still in control.