• Sybil@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    does Israel recognize a Palestinian state? it seems like they own Gaza when they want to treat them like subjects, and they don’t when they want to treat them like an opposing state.

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      11 months ago

      Does Hamas was to be treated as a state?

      Part of that means telling and training your combatants to wear a uniform, so your enemies at war can tell the difference between civilians and combatants.

      Wearing civilian clothes while attacking and killing people is literally a terrorist tactic. You aren’t supposed to blend into the crowds and use them as human shields.

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          They certainly don’t act like one, not with Hamas as leading them.

          That’s part of the problem. I think the PLO or PLA might be better leaders for them.

          Did you look at the Egyptian peace deal? No one wants Hamas running Gaza anymore. Hamas has failed miserably and even the Muslim countries of Egypt and Qatar include new governments as part of the peace deal.

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            11 months ago

            if Gaza isn’t independent then they can’t be committing war crimes. it’s just regular crime. and Israel collectively punishing the ethnic minority are the ones committing war crimes.

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              11 months ago

              Uh huh…

              As I said before: go talk to a soldier about this stuff. You clearly need someone who has actually dealt with war-time issues to talk with you on some basics. I’ve done my part at this point, but I can’t just baby-sit you all day and secondly, I’m not (and never have been a soldier). I just know a few of them and we’ve had this discussion before. So all my knowledge is 2nd hand.

              There are conventions at war, and even the dumbest grunt Private First Class receives training on these matters and have to study up on these issues (every soldier in the US Military is trained to know when, or when not, it is legal to shoot and kill). So this is something that literally any veteran in your life can discuss with you to a far deeper level than I can.


              “War crimes” aren’t crimes because some police officer will catch you. “War crimes” are actions unbecoming of a proper organization and cause the enemy to harm your side even more. Ex: hiding a gun on your person while surrendering, and then killing enemies with it after pretending to surrender is a war crime. Its not “illegal” per se (there’s no organization who will arrest you). It just causes the enemy to refuse surrenders and harms the overall path of the war.

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                It just causes the enemy to refuse surrenders

                no, it doesn’t CAUSE this. it is an excuse that they will use to kill people who are surrendering, even if it’s the hostages they claim they are trying to free.