• Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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    10 months ago

    When it comes to “literal starvation” or “overthrow the shackles of oppression” I have a fair idea of what a lot of locals will choose.

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      10 months ago

      The problem is the goal of “overthrow the shackles of oppression” may be a valid goal with class self interest in mind…

      But that desire can be manipulated into accomplishing the opposite. And the populist right has shown their ability to harness the fear and insecurity that is growing in this country.

      We desperately need a renewed leftist movement that the average American can get behind. Without some sort of mass movement soon, I see things getting worse before they get better.

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        10 months ago

        We desperately need a renewed leftist movement that the average American can get behind.

        I hope unions accomplish this. All our political parties are unwilling to.

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      10 months ago

      They forget that the second option is followed by feudalism. Do they want to be serfs? Because they will be literal property of the aristocratic classes if they elect Trump and let him destroy the constitution.

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        10 months ago

        Fuedalism may seem like a utopian pipe dream with what is possible. Imagine a transition to an authoritarian surveillance capitalism state (something like China).

        With AI, they can even read your thoughts. You get booked into the police because of something you posted online anonymously, they interrogate you while they read your thoughts. You believe in communism? Terrorist -> prison.

        These things can happen faster than we expect. Hitler took Germany from a democracy to a hell hole in less than a decade.

        It looks like all countries in the world are slowly converging on a mixture of the US and Chinese system. Capitalist corporations endowed with power by the state. No free market - a few large companies are easier to control. Strong executive power and theater democracy. Large prison populations.

        Also, this isn’t unique to Trump. The Democrats would bring us to the same destination, just slower. We need a new left. A mass movement like the mass protests of the 60s. That has historically been the only thing that can bring real and significant positive change to the American people.