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    6 months ago

    What makes a lithium iron phosphate battery an ecological nightmare?

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      6 months ago

      If it still relies on mined lithium, it’s some pretty bad stuff. Come to find out mining isn’t super great for the environment.

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        6 months ago

        Much of the lithium is mined in Australia or via salt brines in Chile.

        It’s not worse environmentally than the other mined materials that go into a vehicle.

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            6 months ago

            I’m not sure on the global percentage, but they’re becoming far more common. Most of the top selling EVs where I live (Tesla Model Y/3, BYD Atto 3, BYD Dolphin, MG ZS EV) all use lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries.

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            6 months ago

            They have a somewhat lower energy density so they’ve been avoided, but they’re way safer and better eco wise to the point that they’re getting uptake

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        6 months ago

        This is irrelevant. First, there are chemistries not using cobalt, as explained already. Second, elemental cobalt is infinitely recyclable as all elemental metals, thus we don’t need to mine that much more, just like we don’t mine as much iron ore as we did centuries ago (relative to overall consumption). Yes, we still mine a lot of iron ore, but we recycle a lot as well.

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          6 months ago

          This cobalt must be mined first to be recycled later, and being infinity recyclable doesn’t mean it will be, for example if it’s cheaper to mine new cobalt instead of recycling.

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            6 months ago

            It was already mined, it only needs to be recycled if we continue using old battery chemistries. Which is unlikely.