The U.S. vetoed a UN Security Council resolution Friday calling for a ceasefire to the fighting in Gaza.
The U.S. and Israel have opposed calls for a ceasefire, saying it would strengthen Hamas.
The vote was delayed for several hours over worries the U.S. would veto it. Diplomats from several Arab nations met with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to try to convince the U.S. to abstain from voting.
As a permanent member of the council, the U.S. has veto power, and had signaled it planned to block the resolution. The U.K. abstained from the vote, while the 13 other members of the council voted for it.
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15 countries voting, they lost 13-1 (UK abstained), literally only the US voted against the resolution and yet they can veto it.
It is clearly US and UK vs Gaza children.
“Oh hamas did this and that so lets kill them all, stop water food and aid and move 2 million around” is not justified …
This was always the plan.
People are wising up but I doubt anything can stop it now.
Cat is out of the bag.
Username checks out.
No but seriously, you’re right.
It is clearly US and UK
The UK abstained, that is explicitly not supporting the US. It’s not objecting either, but it’s not supporting.
What I find interesting is that the PM Rishi Sunak talks in full support of Israel in national politics, yet on the international stage the stance is now slightly more neutral.
It is a scam happened before, countries abstain because they know the US would veto. If UK didn’t abstain I think the resolution would pass. That’s why they did it, help to not let the resolution pass and it doesn’t look bad as veto.
How is it a scam?
Not to a scam but clever politics… Let US to take the hit, since supporting Israel is becoming hard as people are wising up to their goals and policies vis a vis Palestinians. The people more educated people get on the topic, the harder it is support Israel at all.
Politicians know that domestic support esp among younger people is down.
Its a desperate attempt not to piss off even more voters. While still supporting party funders ideals.
Does a “no” vote by the US automatically veto it? Or did they have to take an additional action? If the vote alone didn’t veto it, that’s the perfect place to hedge your bets. Vote no, then don’t veto it. You can claim both sides then to appease everyone.
No by the US (or China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom) means veto.
Well that’s dumb. But rules are rules.
aww shucks we have to allow genocide its the rules
It was more meant that they couldn’t vote no then not veto. That being the case they should have at least abstained like the UK.
It’s to prevent nuclear war. If everyone voted to invade or harshly punish a powerful country they could respond.
That is the explanation I was given, but these days I think that’s more of a rationalization than an explanation. Closer to the truth, I think, is that those are the countries that came out of WWII the victors, and so they wrote the rules.
Where are the vote results
Valid question, I got it from another article: https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-politics/ap-un-chief-and-many-nations-demand-immediate-humanitarian-cease-fire-in-gaza-but-us-remains-opposed/
US refuses to block Israeli genocide of Palestinians.
US actively supports Israeli genocide of Palestinians.
These are times when I’m ashamed to be an American.
I’m 70 years old. Of course it’s not the first time. Cute meme though.
Trump years aside, I’ve rarely been so ashamed of my country. And I’m no spring chicken.
Genocide Joe is insatiable.
Trump would be 10x worse, or is that what you had in mind?
Both options would have been collosal twats about this. It’s still valid to call the person currently being a twat about it a twat.
Sure, but someone repeating Trump’s insults is also a twat.
Did Trump actually say? That’s funny considering he’d do the same. I have been saying it since the first US veto back in October, I even thought I came up with it. It is true and has a nice ring to it.
The real question is why is the US run by racist genocidal geriatrics from both parties? Fix your democracy before trying to export it to the Middle East.
We are all twats on this cursed day.
At least everyone in America is
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The Afghanistan pullout was planned during the Trump admin, mind you, Biden basically just didn’t back out of it. Not saying it wasn’t a good thing, but using it as a comparison against the administration that planned it is a bit disingenuous.
And the comparison of drone strikes under Obama is as much a Trumpism as “Genocide Joe”, so using it as a defense against using Trumpisms is also disingenuous.
Not saying Biden isn’t a far sight better than Trump or anything else coming from the conservative camps, but he’s no less of a warhawk at this point.
I’m glad the US lost in Afghanistan and I’m hopeful it loses in Palestine/Middle East too.
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Bet you love that the US wasted 2.4 trillion dollars and 20 years with nothing to show for it. If the US wanted to help Afghan women, why was it bombing them? There are other, more productive ways to help.
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I agree that Biden isn’t really much less of a warhawk, but the point I’m making is that there’s probably been if anything slightly less genocide by the US under Biden than other presidents, which just makes the nickname more ridiculous.
It’s not that he’s much less of a warhawk, he’s no less of a warhawk.
Yes, the nickname is dumb, but that’s mostly because it’s a Trumpism, not that it doesn’t have a tinge of accuracy to it.
I dunno, I still think there’s a valid point to it. Previous presidents increased the amount of genocide, they continued and added to previous actions, Biden has done things to decrease it.
Like, if you were to plot genocide on a logarithmic scale, the slope would be lesser under Biden.
Like, if inflation has been really high, but then becomes a bit less high.
It’s objectively better. Still definitely not good, but not as bad as before, but also still not getting better quickly enough.
It is not a Trumpism. I’m from Saudi Arabia, it is an apt description for the most genocidal maniac leader of the 21st century. Trump possibly being worse is just a condemnation of the USA.
Also, past US president were war criminals who should have faced trial for their war crimes, but Joe is escalating it to an unprecedented genocide.
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I’m from Saudi Arabia
Yemen, RSF, Omar al-Bashir, Sudan, Darfur, etc.
the most genocidal maniac leader of the 21st century.
Netanyahu is less genocidal than Biden?
Meanwhile:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effacer_le_tableau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
I am aligned with the Axis of Resistance. Saudi Arabia is only my country of citizenship. But don’t misunderstand this to be an invitation for a colour revolution in my country.
Biden is supporting Netanyahu unconditionally. Biden could at least vote for a ceasefire instead of vetoing it. Instead he is sending Netanyahu more weapons to enable the genocide. This is Biden’s genocide as much as Netanyahu’s.
What’s 10x worse than a genocide?
10 genocides?
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Ah yes, I am sure Trump wouldn’t do the same thing as well 🙄
The US will always back Israel because the US sees military strategic value against the Middle East with Israel, namely Iran. It also helps that Israel exports a lot of medical equipment to the US as well, so financially we have a good relationship with them there as well.
“trump worse” doesn’t mean that this isn’t bad. The bar is so fucking low at this point, and even then Dems can’t clear it.
The US will always support genocidal maniacs is not a valid argument, and neither is that Trump is as bad.
I genuinely can’t understand why you are defending a genocide. This is bad for the US’s international standing. It hurts the US-led coalition against Russia. Even if you don’t care or humanize Palestinians, you should at least pretend to care about long term US interests at home and abroad.
“Rush by west to back Israel erodes developing countries’ support for Ukraine” https://archive.ph/ctAhD
“We have definitely lost the battle in the Global South,” said one senior G7 diplomat. “All the work we have done with the Global South . [over Ukraine] has been lost . . . Forget about rules, forget about world order. They won’t ever listen to us again.”
Many developing countries have traditionally supported the Palestinian cause, seeing it through the prism of self-determination and a push against the global dominance of the US, Israel’s most important backer.
“What we said about Ukraine has to apply to Gaza. Otherwise we lose all our credibility,” the senior G7 diplomat added. “The Brazilians, the South Africans, the Indonesians: why should they ever believe what we say about human rights?”
He’s defending genocide because he’s grasping at straws trying to pin everything on native peoples for not wanting to have their land stolen
Who said I was defending it? What did I say that would imply that?
My post is explaining why this would have happened regardless of who was in charge in response to the honestly stupid “gEnOcIdEr JoE” post. If you ask me, this shouldn’t even be happening in the first place, and I personally don’t advocate for war and/or genocide nor condone such barbaric actions because of the more harmful long-term consequences such things have on people from both sides of the conflict. We should have agreed to the ceasefire, and am disappointed we veto’d it.
If the current resident president was Trump, people would have called him Genocide Don and rightfully so. The most shameful thing any president could do is allow a genocide to happen when he has the full power to stop it.
I am glad you agree that the US vetoing the ceasefire multiple times is wrong and makes it complicit in the crimes, not to mention all the bombs and financial aid they are sending to Israel.
No one should have veto power, it makes any organization extremely undemocratic. And given the American arsenal, it’s already difficult to be democratic.
UN is the change.org of the real world. The idea is great but it only works on extremely rare cases. I know its purpose is to stop next world war but it should stop trying to seem like a platform for discussion as there is no discussion to be had when you give someone power to veto any resolution.
The UN with their permanent members are a disgrace. All they do is uphold imperialism and say please don’t do that.
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I like how casually you talk about a few tens of thousands of people being murdered and millions more made homeless. As long as we get the one guy, infinite murder is justified!
The focus isn’t on that though, and while you and The Leader of the Free World™ prevaricate and wish for a perfect solution, children are being slaughtered in their thousands. The focus, in my opinion, should be on stopping that slaughter immediately. You know, with a ceasefire or something.
Having grown up in the midst of one of the most authoritarian depressions of the planet, I know that a ceasefire will not make the conflict go away at all, it will only erupt even more at some point in the future. Only a bottom-up awakening of the population to a general sense of modern citizenship can change this, and it will take a generation or two to transform it. We have had more than sixteen wars in the history of this country that have resulted in more than 50 percent of the population being decimated. Politicians often use the past history of invasions and other means to brainwash people and promote hate education, but as a modern person in a modern society, I know that history is just a lie of the victor, so the way to judge the problem should not be the first preconceived notion of right and wrong with the standpoint of the first, this kind of judgment has too much one-sided. No one wants war, famine and death on earth, but that is human nature.
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Hamas is fighting back against a genocidal occupation. They haven’t killed a single civilian because active participants in that genocidal occupation are not civilians. You and anyone who supports that genocidal occupation and the antisemitic monsters behind it are a blight on the world. Remove yourself as painfully as possible.
The Palestinians of today are the Arabs of the Palestinian areas, this is a basic fact that you need to get right, and when you get right this you know that your so-called genocidal occupation is a false proposition
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I think it’s right that this kind of motion should be voted down, the good guy tactic will reduce population casualties in the short term, but in the long term, uMkontho we Sizwe will do more harm, so it’s right to have an eye for an eye tactic. But the focus should be on how to eliminate uMkontho we Sizwe while protecting as many civilians as possible, rather than a truce to give uMkontho we Sizwe a break.
-P. W. Botha, 1989 (Tagged the quote as spoiler as the original got
lmao deserved btw)
