• li10@feddit.uk
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    11 months ago

    It’s so expensive and time consuming to eat healthy, even more expensive if you want quality ingredients.

    Meanwhile, junk food is quick, cheap, and tastes “better” because they just pack it full of sugar or have no regard for nutrition.

    There’s really little incentive to eat healthy unless you’re making a conscious decision to be healthier.

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      11 months ago

      Beans and rice is cheap as hell, easy to make, and it’ll last for a week or two depending on storage options.

      I’m really tired of the expensive angle on healthy eating. It literally takes 20 minutes of research to get around that issue.

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        11 months ago

        Yep it’s total bullshit. What people are really saying is they’re too lazy to prepare foods. Stir fry is cheap. Soup is cheap. Beans (refried, chili, black bean, etc.) & rice is cheap. All healthy.

        Making lentil tacos tonight. Again, filthy cheap. Stupid simple. But tons of protein, complex carbs, fiber, vitamins, and minerals.

        It gets much more efficient time-wise when you meal prep. Every improvement requires “conscious effort.” we’re just accustomed to bad habits because nobody taught us better.

        Edit: I was a bit harsh on the laziness accusations. People are products of their environment generally and there are fair points regarding societal pressures. The body tends to take the path of least resistance and, well, this is the outcome.

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        I never liked this suggestion. Sure, dry beans and rice are cheap. When we tried to make beans, they came out tasteless and gross no matter what we tried. No matter what recipe we followed, they never tasted good. Rice is also cheap, especially when bought in bulk, but there’s only so many seasoning or sauce sauce combinations until I’m sick of eating the same thing. Even if it’s every other day, there’s no way I’m eating the same thing. We did that with overnight oats because they are cheap and easy to prepare ahead of time. We did it so much, it makes me gag now and I’ll never touch it again. On top of all that, I’m tired of cheap eating being reduced to the simplest possible foods imaginable and acting like people will eat them every or most days.

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          they came out tasteless and gross no matter what we tried.

          You tried wrong then, buy dried beans, leave them on water overnight, change the water, put them on the pressure cooker with new water for 20-30 minutes(the bean should easily be crushed between your palate and tongue if not, add more time)

          open the lid, the water must barely cover the beans(remove or add water), low the fire and start adding chopped tomatoes and onions, SALT(salt is probably the most important ingredient, start with a little bit, add until the water tastes salty but edible) thyme and turmeric, same process as the salt, not too much just enough that the water tastes good, leave in a slow fire for 5-10 minutes(more if you want the beans extra soft),

          bonus: extra taste secret, chop bacon and fry it with little oil, put it in with the oil, but don’t put much, max two oil spoons in, do it when you put the tomatoes and onions.

          Serve with rice, or add more water and make a soup.

          Oatmeal: boil the oatmeal in water with cinnamon until it’s cooked, then wait for cooling, put in the blender with milk, add fruits, and some drops of vanilla extract. Put in refrigerator, enjoy.

          acting like people will eat them every or most days.

          People do eat them everyday, rice+any grain+meat+salad+etc

          You know how many tasteless and even gross things that came from animals and plants humans have learned to eat? Boil it, fry it, use every seasoning available until it tastes good.

          Edit: add the salt before, when you put them on the pressure cooker, not with the tomatoes and onions, that way the taste gets inside the bean when its pressure cooked.

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          So look for a recipe then. Chicken is cheap as hell. Pasta is cheap as hell. Rice is cheap as hell. Veggies are cheap as hell. Recipes will tell you how to cook it and make it taste good.

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      11 months ago

      There’s nothing more expensive and time consuming than being laid up in the hospital with cancer/heart disease/diabetes.

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      11 months ago

      Taking a carrot and eating it is faster, easier and more convenient that “fast” food. It can also be thrown around in a bag all day and still taste the same. Same with apples and…

      It is really easy to simply make the decision to not eat shit. You don’t need to be an 8th degree vegan to be healthier.

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        11 months ago

        Okay, good luck trying to convince a child of that, or someone who’s in the junk food loop.

        Just eating raw carrots also sounds like a miserable experience, you need to make healthy meals.

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          Getting a child to brush their teeth (or do it for them) is also a constant effort. So what? Just let them rot? Raising children well is not easy, we know that.

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            11 months ago

            So we agree, it’s not easy…

            I don’t know if you’ve somehow read my original comment as pro junk food, but it’s not.

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        11 months ago

        It’s so easy you guys 💁

        Also: Exercising more? That’s easy too-- Instead of not doing exercise, simply do exercise instead.

        Saving money, same thing-- Simply don’t spend it all and you’re good.

        Okay, we’re on fire with these life-changing insights-- What pervasive personal responsibility problem should we do next?

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          The person argues that fast food is somehow cheaper. To me, it is far more expensive.

          They say eating healthy is complicated. It is far easier.

          I never said that switching to vegan is easy. But eating a carrot here and there, an apple, bla… is super easy and cheap.

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            You’re getting down voted because you’re suggesting eating the occasional raw fruit and veggie and writing like that’s a replacement for eating fast food. Maybe if you provided a recipe or a meal idea people would be more receptive.

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              While I did not write that, yes, people seem to think that. Replacing part of what we eat with something healthy is easy and cheap. Not a solution to everything. Not a complete vegan lifestyle.

              Anyway, a recipe etc. is not going to change people. This is a more fundamental issue.

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          Raw carrots are tough but I make a carrot apple shake with some cinnamon 'n shit and it’s delicious. Just Google. Super easy.