Kyle does for quarterbacks what Mike used to do for running backs. He makes great into elite, good into great, average into good, and bad into just below average. And that is because the “system” is the little heard of strategy to surround the QB with talent vs hoping the qb can make anyone work.
so does this mean QB’s will eventually be devalued and/or tossed to the curb like how Mike pretty much started the trend with RB’s that we see on full display today?
Mike Shanahan’s offense was plenty favorable to QBs. If there were social media back then people would be talking all about how Shanahan made Brian Griese viable and Jake Plummer into a Pro Bowl QB. He was just terrible at scouting QBs… a trait that his son actually kinda share if you think about it.
And that is because the “system” is the little heard of strategy to surround the QB with talent vs hoping the qb can make anyone work.
Yeah this is so incredibly reductive and flat out wrong. Wrong because Shanahan didn’t always have the stacked offensive skill he has right now and he still made it work. Just look Garoppolo’s first 6 starts with the Niners (all wins) after he was traded from NE.
Shanahan is a great offensive coordinator and playcaller independent of his skill position talent. Acting like the strategy is “just get good players” is beyond stupid when he’s probably one of the best in the NFL in getting guys open.
It is also reductive to act as if your opinion is superior and objective and that everyone who disagrees simply doesn’t pay attention or doesn’t have your viewership credentials.
Also there may be a case that CJ Bethard and Bryan Hoyer are not in fact better than Jimmy Garopolo (neither was franken-season Nick Mullens). But i was not arguing jimmy g or Purdy bad. I said he elevates his qbs. Also digging into the 5 game win streak it is not like all the wins were against great teams
5-11 Bears rookie Mitch Trubisky
4-12 Texans w/ TJ Yates
9-7 Titans (good win)
10-6 Jaguars (good win)
11-5 Rams resting their starters
They also started the next season 1-2 (the Chiefs game counts even with the injury as it was 4th and 7 the next snap, they got backed up on a penalty and kicked a field goal to never touch the ball again)
But yes, because he didn’t completely shake the Chip Kelly Roster up in year 1 to win with below average qb play, them finally having enough pieces by 2019 to be competitive doesn’t factor in because we have never seen teams with bad records go on a run in December before.
Just look Garoppolo’s first 6 starts with the Niners (all wins) after he was traded from NE.
It’s dope how you conveniently left out they were 1-10 before that. It’s also odd (and just flat out wrong) that you said Jimmy’s first 6 starts and not 5. Because he only started 5 games when they first got him in 2017 and went 5-0. His 6th start was the opener of the 2018 season which they lost. So he started 5-1 in his first 6 starts.
I swear, it really feels like some of you guys just started watching football this year but also like being really opinionated.
Kyle does for quarterbacks what Mike used to do for running backs. He makes great into elite, good into great, average into good, and bad into just below average. And that is because the “system” is the little heard of strategy to surround the QB with talent vs hoping the qb can make anyone work.
so does this mean QB’s will eventually be devalued and/or tossed to the curb like how Mike pretty much started the trend with RB’s that we see on full display today?
Mike Shanahan’s offense was plenty favorable to QBs. If there were social media back then people would be talking all about how Shanahan made Brian Griese viable and Jake Plummer into a Pro Bowl QB. He was just terrible at scouting QBs… a trait that his son actually kinda share if you think about it.
Fun fact it was actually Brian Griese who scouted Brock Purdy and backed him him to Kyle
Yeah this is so incredibly reductive and flat out wrong. Wrong because Shanahan didn’t always have the stacked offensive skill he has right now and he still made it work. Just look Garoppolo’s first 6 starts with the Niners (all wins) after he was traded from NE.
Shanahan is a great offensive coordinator and playcaller independent of his skill position talent. Acting like the strategy is “just get good players” is beyond stupid when he’s probably one of the best in the NFL in getting guys open.
It is also reductive to act as if your opinion is superior and objective and that everyone who disagrees simply doesn’t pay attention or doesn’t have your viewership credentials.
Also there may be a case that CJ Bethard and Bryan Hoyer are not in fact better than Jimmy Garopolo (neither was franken-season Nick Mullens). But i was not arguing jimmy g or Purdy bad. I said he elevates his qbs. Also digging into the 5 game win streak it is not like all the wins were against great teams
5-11 Bears rookie Mitch Trubisky
4-12 Texans w/ TJ Yates
9-7 Titans (good win)
10-6 Jaguars (good win)
11-5 Rams resting their starters
They also started the next season 1-2 (the Chiefs game counts even with the injury as it was 4th and 7 the next snap, they got backed up on a penalty and kicked a field goal to never touch the ball again)
But yes, because he didn’t completely shake the Chip Kelly Roster up in year 1 to win with below average qb play, them finally having enough pieces by 2019 to be competitive doesn’t factor in because we have never seen teams with bad records go on a run in December before.
It’s dope how you conveniently left out they were 1-10 before that. It’s also odd (and just flat out wrong) that you said Jimmy’s first 6 starts and not 5. Because he only started 5 games when they first got him in 2017 and went 5-0. His 6th start was the opener of the 2018 season which they lost. So he started 5-1 in his first 6 starts.
I swear, it really feels like some of you guys just started watching football this year but also like being really opinionated.