• autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Man, the thought terminating cliche rigging of the brains of people on these subjects is really depressing.

      We make long well thought out good faith posts and get dismissed as propaganda, even though we’re just regular people with earnest opinions. Like come on, have some intellectual curiosity. Think. This isnt even a enthusiastically pro-China post. Please. If you’re going to come to our instance, please, please actually come here in good faith.

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        Earnest and good faith? I clicked the fucking link, there was a literal NSFW pig, shitting on its fucking testicles. Why would I listen to what they have to say after that?

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          99% of the post was earnest and good faith, it ended with one of our memes. Stop doing that thing libs do where they pick out one element of a post to refuse to engage with the rest of it. You’re just making excuses to not think.

          Also, you’re switching lanes here anyway. You said it was propaganda. Not that you were put off by the meme at the end.

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            Why would I “engage in good faith in the marketplace of ideas” with authoritarian, fake communists that justify or deny brutal genocides like the Holodomor and cultural genocides of the Uyghurs? See I don’t think you’re as bad as fascists and nazis but I also find the kind of authoritarian rhetoric very scary and dangerous.

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              “denying” the “genocide” of the holodomor, or, in other words, not downplaying the actual literal Holocaust. Please, go read some serious historians and not Robert Conquest. No one who has seriously studied the issue, and actually had access to the Soviet archives thinks that it was a genocide. Take just one small fact for example: if the holodomor was a targeted genocide of Ukrainians, why did more Kazakhs die during the famine? Why do they not cry “genocide” like the Ukrainian state?

              Regardless, it’s responses like this that warrant the pig poop balls. No investigation, no right to speak.

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                why did more Kazakhs die during the famine

                That’s a good point-- I’m sure it’s overlooked that Stalin was committing genocide on Muslims even moreso than Ukrainians!

                FYI I like Lenin just not authoritarian capitalist Stalin that caused the decline of Soviet communism.

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                  I’m sure it’s overlooked that Stalin was committing genocide on Muslims even moreso than Ukrainians!

                  "I’m sure I’m right, I must be! angery "
                  Again, come on man, no investigation, no right to speak. No one who has studied this more than you or I ever will believes it was a intentional genocide. Go read the new translation of Losurdo’s Stalin, that’ll do you more good than whatever it was you were going to do tomorrow.

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                  If you like Lenin you should read about his thoughts on imperialism sometime. His works on the subject inform the views on geopolitics of the “tankies” you so despise.

                  (You should also read “On Authority” by Engels since you throw around the word authoritarian a lot).

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              What in that users post that you rejected as propaganda had anything to do with the Uighurs or Holodomor. Like, you’re wrong about those things and the facts are on our side on those issues, but I don’t even care about that. And neither do you, they’re just excuses to not engage with things intellectually for you. You dont give a fuck about Uighurs.

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      That’s really rude, you asked a question, someone gave you an answer, and then you dismiss the answer as propaganda without reading it because it’s difficult to read. This isn’t what Bernie would do.

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      @Bernie2028@midwest.social

      I’m saying your China hate isn’t going to make you happy or wealthy. No one on Hexbear here hates China with you, and you just come off as a nihlistic anti-intellectual loser.

      You’re probably a troll, but it still bears worth typing out why I - and others who share my view or are malleable to it - don’t waste our time scapegoating a country for a decline in quality of life here in the West.

      You’re smelly. You have poop running down your pants and piss making squishy sounds on your shoes. I, and all humanity, cringe at you.