I’ve been convinced to build my own NAS again instead of going with a Synology and I’m thinking there are probably parts that don’t matter if you buy used vs new but I’m curious what your thoughts are?

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    Motherboard, CPU and RAM - no problem at all (more accurately, problems are easy to spot with diagnostics and they shouldn’t wear out).

    Chassis - a bit of a wild card. The backplane in one of my systems is faulty.

    PSUs - ideally new.

    HDDs - almost all of mine are secondhand. Enterprise- or NAS-grade drives should have many years of life left. Ideally buy new to benefit from warranty but my experience has been great.

    SSDs - nope. Buy new. I bought some secondhand Samsung SSDs and they developed problems, both threw IO errors after a few weeks. SSDs are cheap enough not to bother with secondhand.

    Everything else I bought used, including the rack. In fact, the only things I bought new in my entire homelab are my router and WiFi AP.

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    The only thing I buy new are the HDD’s for the bulk storage.

    I’ll buy used enterprise SSD’s for flash storage.

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      10 months ago

      Oh wow, that’s awesome. No concerns buying used CPU, RAM, or MOBO? I’m assuming you buy a new power supply though right?

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        No concerns here.

        I buy used server chassis and power supplies for my NASes.

        The only new items in my primary, backup, and offsite NASes are the 500TB of HDD’s and a couple of fan splitters.

        The only new items in my 3 Proxmox nodes are…nothing actually. All SSD’s, HDD’s and everything else is used enterprise hardware.

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    My NAS is almost filled with used parts, mostly lightly used. Only the power supply is brand new as the form factor is hard to find.(flex ATX, I bought an FSP FlexGURU)

    IMO excluding HDD, most hardwares can be used without much consequence: CPU, RAM(I only trust original/major grade sticks), case and perhaps power supply(from reputable brand and known good model)

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    I’d probably buy everything used other than the power supply and drives.

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    Power supply and case I’ve always bought new. Everything else has been 100% used enterprise parts off eBay, or used hand-me-downs from my gaming rig. No issues in 15 years doing this.

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      10 months ago

      Got any good key words to make sure I’m finding desirable used enterprise stuff?

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    Aside from drives, the rest of the components are fine. But honestly, I use what I had for a computer before upgrading to my current one. Old components you have around can be a good idea.

    I don’t really like buying drives second-hand, but I suppose it shouldn’t be an issue if the drive is relatively new and has had little use.

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    Ive had good luck with used enterprise hdds. They are loud but have always worked fine. I like buying them all at once from the same seller, but I’ve mixed and matched as well.

    I personally don’t think smart errors are the end of the world either. A few of them on something large like 14tb isn’t the end of the world. I’ve had more issues with brand new seagate 8tb than anything I’ve gotten used.

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    For me, everything is on the table for used with a minor exception for spinning drives which I tend to buy new. There are some good recycling companies out that that have killer deals on enterprise setups. A lot of those also have enterprise activated idracs (dell hardware anyway)for example which saves me time running up and down stairs trying to get it setup or investigate why I can’t ssh into it.

    For example, I picked up a dell 720xd from a recycling company for $450 shipped - 256gb ram, 20 cores(40threads), enterprise idracs, 12x4tb sas, and 2x 300gb ssd for os. Is it louder than a setup I could build, absolutely. But I needed something to replace my Amazon drive for my photos and this was way cheaper than adding 10 more drives to my main nas setup(I would have done >14tb drives in there)

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    Everything used. Any risk of drive failure can be offset by just buying more drives.

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      My NAS was built almost entirely with Ebay parts in 2018 and is still humming just fine, I had a water leak when I moved into my house and it hosed 2 of my WD Gold Enterprise drives. If I remember correctly the PSU was the only thin I put in that was new.

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    I’ve bought my entire setup used hahaha. Prob not the best but it’s been working since so fingers crossed but I found 2x16tb exos for $100/each and was lucky to snap up a QNAP TS451+ (4bay) used for under $50. Also grabbed 2x3.84TB SSD (Samsung enterprise grade with less than 100 hours each for $150/piece). I feel as long as you can find lightly used, you can’t go wrong!