I am considering a purchase as a student although it is really expensive.

What are your major criticisms of the framework laptop?

E.g.

- I have heard that it discharges battery even while powered off (a very serious issue IMO).

Also, I will be using win10/11 and fedora most likely. So any Linux-related issues (e.g. hardware support) I would really like to know.

Thanks for any ideas.

  • yParticle@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago
    • the optional ethernet adapter sticks out a bit (the RJ45 connector would be too large otherwise)
    • the earlier models have a reflective screen
    • having to use the Fn key for home end pgup pgdn is more of an annoyance than I expected coming from a ThinkPad with dedicated keys
    • it’s sort of spoiled me for working on other laptops
    • shazow@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I also miss the dedicated pgup / pgdown buttons a fair bit. It’s nice to have universal physical buttons for reading, works in every app.

      I also miss dedicated mouse click buttons, especially for middle click on linux. But I can get over this.

    • InexorableIbis-@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Missing home/ end/ PgUp/ down keys is actually the biggest reason why I still haven’t bought one. I just don’t want to take the risk.

        • a60v@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Not to speak for the previous poster, but I use these all the time in my web browser and in PDF-viewing software (evince). They’re pretty useful.

        • InexorableIbis-@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          All the time in programming. Jump to the start/end of the line, quickly scrolling through logfiles, source files, documentation etc.

          Yes, most of them can probably be replaced by some other key combination. But it will be a different shortcut for each tool, and I don’t feel like remembering multiple combinations just to navigate a file using a keyboard.

        • codeasm@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Acccount gone, weird. Fn +those keys and you have them again. With linux yiu maybe can swap em. Wonder if my framebook bios allow to swap the default.

          I have no issues with my framework keyboard. Love it. I dislike ghe windows logo, could have been a gear or tux but ow well

          • cassepipe@alien.topBEnglish
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            10 months ago

            I think you replied to the wrong comment. I was asking what was the use case for Pg Up/Down and Home/End that prevented OP to buy a Framework

            Personally, I tend to use vim modes everywhere so I don’t really need those but I always thought that on a laptop they were too far away to be useful anyhoo.

            • codeasm@alien.topBEnglish
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              10 months ago

              I know, sadly that user is gone and wanted to reply. Its a good question you have, cause i have a fw and my left hand holds Fn, right hand does what page up or home or end i need to press. You know what i miss? The pause button. Kinda wish i could swap default fn function but at ghe same time, im ok with this arrangement. Nonidea why OP of this subthread doesnt go for a dedicated keyboard or ghe FW16 with full keyboard mod.

              • cassepipe@alien.topBEnglish
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                10 months ago

                Ok ok. I thought you were the another account of the same person

                Uh, I have a fw13 12th and f5 is actually a play/pause button