Literally easier than Windows.
People are falling for this and downloading software from unofficial websites.
Linux is super easy.
- Debian-based: # apt install firefox
- Red-Hat-based: # dnf in firefox
- Arch: # pacman -S firefox
TBF, on Debian
apt install firefoxinstalls firefox-esr, and on Ubuntu it’s a placeholder that installs the snap package. Both work and are clearly better than downloading from random websites, but they do come with surprises for unsuspecting users.Why is Ubuntu even still relevant?
Inertia?
That’s because debian stable need ESR packages to make any sense, on debian unstable (debian Sid) you get the normal package
Ok but also
winget install mozilla.firefoxIt’s not binary
It actually is a binary. Though you can probably find some version to compile in the AUR
slow clap
winget was literally robbed from appget.
Or even: yay firefox
or even: yay -S librewolf-bin
No need. Librewolf got added to extra repo. yay librewolf or pacman -S librewolf will do just fine.
👍
yay firefoxdoesyay -Ss firefox.Which, in turn, does
me: yay! 🥳
- OpenSUSE: # zypper in firefox
CachyOS # pacman -S firefox-wayland-cachy-hg
edit: BTW
Thinking a command line is easier than double clicking an installer shows how far you linux users are devoid from the common user.
apt install
softwareVs
Search "
software"click download, accept security warning, navigate to wherever your default download location is, double click installer, click your way through the installer (make sure do deselect whatever crapware it tries to package along with).Yup, the Windows way is totally so much easier.
So going to mozilla.org then immediately installs firefox?
Yep, you should try it
It doesn’t and you know that.
From there you click Firefox, then you click the download link it gives you on the next page, that downloads a file (still not installed) or takes you to an app store if you’re on a phone, you run that file or click install on the app store to actually install the application.
Wow! That sounds complicated and seems like a lot of unnecessary steps
mmh http://mozilla.org/ IMO
what do you do with the extra 2 seconds?
My wife.
2 whole seconds? You animal.
Sudo rm - rf /
🤷♂️
bash: Sudo: command not foundAnd
rmwon’t work either, since you (probably) don’t have files named-andrf, and then it will complain that/is a directory. And even if we correct that, you forgot to pass--no-preserve-root.Maybe they are being nice to people trying to test a random command from the internet.
To be fair, I’m guessing that most people will just type “Firefox” into Google and click the first link
“There’s no need to download a different browser”
Not wrong about OP, but also both major desktop environments on linux ship with “app stores” that are friendly to anyone familiar with a phone. So it’s still easier installing software on linux than searching for and downloading .msi and .exe files on the internet (and hoping the version of MSI afterburner you found is the real one).
Common users type into chatbots. They can 100% type the install commands. But also using the Bazaar or software center is super easy.
Who’s typing those long ass command chains? Let’s be honest, it’s all copy pasta from those chatbots.
Thinking you have to use the terminal for installing programs can only mean you don’t know anything about modern user friendly Linux distros. You manage to install stuff on an iOS or Android phone as well, without downloading random files from random sites and then launching random installers, do you? You can do it thesame way on Linux.
The thing is, if you want to, you can also use the terminal. Many prefer it because you can be faster and the command is not rocket science. Which is fine too. Whatever you prefer.
I use Octopi generally, though the add/remove software app is prettier. If I have to install software via the command line I always have to double check the syntax. The command like version existing is extremely useful as a fallback though, and most (all?) gui package managers act as wrappers around the command line. So don’t dunk on the command line
I find installing or running software from the cli is excellent for getting hints and clues to errors that the gui won’t show you.
that’s not what devoid means.
I disagree.
But still, you need to get the installer somehow.
Don’t know what the fuck is going on there, but that’s not installing a browser.
Looks like they have a tiling window manager running the ‘stat’ command on a bunch of kernel files on the left, then a bunch of smaller window tiles having random stuff like garbled text, a resource monitor, and gnucharmap?
They think they are movie hackers sitting in a back seat in a high speed chase going clackity clak ok got it, next light is green.
DOWNLOAD THE SERVER ON A DVD!
Damn, this repo is tough to fetch from. I will take the left side of the keyboard and you take the right.
Real Linux users use Lynx because they fucked up their XF86Config.
You be nice to Lynx. It was the first browser I used way back in the day. Fast and sometimes confusing and limited, it was the perfect experience.
Or the display manager is a bitch with your custom $XAUTHORITY place (looking at you, Lightdm).
Add
programs.firefox.enable = true;to configuration.nix.Call
sudo nixos-rebuild switch. Maybe add--flakeif you’re feeling adventurous.Done.
Or, more realistically…
programs = { firefox = { enable = true; # Configure anything you want here (language, # extensions, policies... whatever). }; # Enable and configure other programs here. };… and keep the whole thing in a git repository to track changes and have it available for other machines.
And you can even add
programs.firefox.package = pkgs.librewolf;if you prefer it!And the default GUI configs come with Firefox iirc!
dude, don’t try to sell me on an easy to configure distro, I’m just finishing up on the configs for my debian home server/sometimes workstation. Definitely don’t do it, don’t send me down the rabbit hole of reproducebility
As a programmer, the moment I learned about nixos (here on lemmy, if I recall correctly) I knew that’d be the one I’d pick once I found the time to move to linux. It just seemed like a reasonable way of doing things, you know?
Bit of a learning curve, but worth it, I believe.
Lol,
yay firefox-esr.And optionally
ln -s /usr/sbin/firefox-esr ~/bin/webbrowser.
The installing, not the webbrowser.
What distros are ya’ll using that firefox isn’t installed by default?
minimal arch install
When I used to be on windows it was a bit of pain to install Firefox via WSL2. I probably had to install like X11 while at it. I also installed modded Minecraft. It ran fabulously at 2 FPS v 1.4.7
High-jacking the thread a bit.
As anyone tried Midori recently. I remembered about it this past weekend and when searching I was impressed with the project page.
Installed it on my phone and my computer.
On Android it is not ready yet. Maybe for tablets. The browser did not resize to fit the screen. It also felt heavy. Removed after a few tentative uses.
On PC, the same feeling of being heavy, slow moving. It took a long time to open and start navigating. My computer is not new but it carries itself well enough to start FF in a few seconds.
i think i never even used a terminal to install a browser and i dabbled with linux on and off for over a decade now. there was always a gui to install a browser. well, not on arch in 2014 but back then i never made it past a half broken desktop enviroment. so my point still stands technically.
Ironically, I used a terminal to install LibreWolf on my Macbook.
There are several gui applications for your package manager you can use to install various browsers.
This ironically fits more to windows users trying to uninstall edge
Installing a flatpack looks different on my system.
That’s not installing Firefox, that’s https://github.com/dustinkirkland/hollywood
Nope just use w3m it’s better
Live by the cli, die by the cli.
yay -S librewolfdone
