Well, this is pretty normal. Just wait when Micron will enter with the new fab fully active.
Both are dropping. SSDs used to cost a fucking fuck load!
Both are dropping, but SSDs are dropping more quickly
HDDs have hit a wall of physics, not of engineering. Well technically it still is engineering but the issues are ones that require new better understanding of physics to solve.
Me I am hype for the LTO price crashing on the next few years.
That has been the case since the hard drive crisis from the end of 2011. Well, SSDs stagnated or even went a little up over a 1-2 years period a few years back but now they’re back in full swing. If this continues (which isn’t a given, I’d say it’s 50/50 chances) it’ll be hard to justify spinning rust (all the “but but but unpowered SSDs can lose data in as little as X time” aside).
For what it’s worth, we’re coming off of the bottom of a bust cycle in the NAND flash space.
The OP’s graphs basically capture the NAND market from the previous boom through the current bust. So from that specific perspective, SSD prices have been dropping like a rock. The only catch with that window is that it fails to capture the cyclical nature of the market - and thus fails to illustrate how SSD prices go back up.
In practice, SSD prices have hit their lowest point. They are going to rebound here until the next bust in 2-3 years.
Get ready for incessant “SSD cartel” “price-gouging” posts for the next 2~3 years.
If they ever stop producing hard drives, I’ll have to start burning archival discs or something.
I don’t think hard drives are going away anytime soon. Seagate just releases their dual actuator drives to market recently so not only are hdds not going away but they’re still actively being innovated and improved upon.
Yea, good luck with that, the formerly japanese Verbatim is now just a label for some Taiwanese/Hong Kong generic manufacturer, and if before there were some discussions about the BD M-Discs not being worth it and being mostly the same process now they don’t even bother to use the MILLEN metadata, the difference being only on the box label (and price). What’s worse some people reported some really bad quality issues (like 50% failures). So nope, you’ll need to stick with the mainstream.
Pray that we at least keep this perk where the discrete storage is something common and cheap, and not some oddity like any of the dead formats or something reserved for Enterprise use with crazy prices (think tape). Already most people are using just what they get in their devices and that is morphing into stuff soldered into motherboards or even included into SoC (think CPU, but with more functions, but only one chip). And very often it’s even encrypted and you can’t get access to it …
I believe that is just the nature of the beast. SSDs are much simpler from a manufacturing standpoint and benefit from general advances in chip production that keep driving the costs down.
NANDs are still produced in 14-15nm afaik. The only reason they got more capacity is 3d stacking but that has an obvious cost wall.
The timescale is rather short in the grand scheme of things and SSDs have been massively oversupplied in the last little over a year. We’ll have to wait and see how this develops, SSD prices could start to rise if the correct for the oversupply.
3 years ago I paid $280 for an 18TB Easystore this year I paid $200, both were the best deals of the year so I’d say prices are still coming down just more slowly than we’d maybe like.
Not only a short timescale, but one that starts in the middle of the very outlier economic conditions brought about by COVID and the responses to it.
in my country 1 tb nvme ssd are cheaper than 2.5 inch sata HDD of same size, and it sucks because my server is 10 year old and has only sata ports
I’d assume there really isn’t much room for HDD prices to come down in contrast to SSDs since the latter always fetched a premium until the technology started becoming more commonplace.
I think it’s simply a matter of physical limitations, we basically reached the physical limit of how hard disk work storing while ssd relie on microchips and we are becoming capable of making more and more circuitry in the same amount of silicon which makes it cheaper
they’ve barely moved in 4+ years though
I’ve got a Samsung 970 evo 1tb for 99 EUR in 2020. Last week (2023) I’ve a Kingston KC 3000 2TB for the same price.
This is not what I call “barely moved”.
depends on your area
I’ve bought a used Crucial MX500 250GB for 30€ in 2019.
Last week I got a Crucial MX500 1TB for 45€.
I can get a 2TB for below double-price but I only need 1 TB and I read that it has a different build with lower speed (lower TLC, smaller DRAM or something, I don’t know).
Exactly 4 years and certainly not barely moved.
they’re near 100€ here, but sure, 250gb was 100€ 10 years ago.
If you consider inflation, they have come down kinda? lol
$16.99 …what are your thoughts on it? For the price I’m thinking of trying a few out, but I’m learning about datahoarding first.
Spinning rust storage prices are hold in place by the WD/Seagate cartel.
They can’t do the same shit with Samsung, Micron, intel, etc. in the game.
One day I shall have a full nvme NAS with 12x 8TD nvme disks? :D
M.2 ssd are tge biggest deal but i only have one slot
this is actually bad news, because el cheapo ssds are not good for “unpowered” long time storage
expensive 1 bit per cell ssds maybe, but not multiple bits per cell (and those are the cheap types of ssds)
so for long time hoarders nothing really changes until hdd supply lasts, let’s hope hdd supply will last for long years
1 bit per cell ssds
Are they even there on the market anymore? I couldn’t find any in my country’s dominant tech store chain, and there are barely any MLC drives (it’s just Samsung SM883 up to 1TB and Dell 400 up to 480GB)
Supply and demand.
SSD/NVMe prices have fallen dramatically and offer big performance, space and power efficiency benefits to most users. Many computer enclosures don’t even have bays to install 3.5" HDD’s anymore. If you’re building a PC for a user desktop or buying a laptop, most users will be more than satisfied with one or two NVMe sticks on the motherboard. There’s many more desktops and laptops than servers, so demand is higher and storage manufacturers have accommodated by shifting their production capacity to that product line.
So storage manufacturers have devoted more effort into maximizing materials and manufacturing efficiency/capacity to SSD/NVMe’s than HDD’s to accommodate consumer demand. HDD’s are now being considered more of a lower-volume niche/enterprise product, where capacity is more of a driver than price.
SSD/NVMe prices have fallen dramatically
depends on the country