• dhtseany@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    I remember when they had a big long-arc that was spread intelligently across all of the movies that built up to Endgame. I think they’ve forgotten this.

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      9 months ago

      Phase 4 lost the plot. It’s like they didn’t know what to do after Endgame.

      For the plot going forward, you have to see:

      Wandavision (Disney+, Blu Ray this month)
      Loki Season 1 (Disney+, fresh on Blu Ray)
      Spider-Man: No Way Home
      Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness
      Ant-Man: Quantumania
      Loki Season 2 (just finished)

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        9 months ago

        I think you’ve put your finger on it. The shows didn’t exist prior to Endgame. Now, they’re doing the same nonsense as 90s/early 2000s Marvel where if you wanted to understand everyone in large events (which happened all the time) you really needed to read a bunch of different series.

        But, watching a ten episode show is a time committment and there are so many actually worthwhile shows that one can watch…

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          9 months ago

          I think the biggest problem is they keep hamfisting action and comedy where it’s completely unnecessary. If something is worth watching people will find the time.

          But they keep making the same mistakes on most of their stuff, like Wandavision was pretty good up until they decided they needed a big fight scene for the climax. Quantimania, Falcon & WS, Captain Marvel were milquetoast. Then you’ve got Thor L&T and Secret Invasion which were handled badly. It was weird to get Sam Raimi back for a one-off but not branching into the supernatural side of Marvel.

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        9 months ago

        True, but that doesn’t fix their quality problem. Loki wasn’t bad but everything else since endgame has been unwatchable to boring and forgettable at best.

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          9 months ago

          Guardians 3 was really good, but they just let Gunn do his thing and it wasn’t just trying to move the general plot along. I wish they had more stuff that was just doing it’s own thing.

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            9 months ago

            I just saw Guardians three the other day finally. Did it feel to you like 20 minutes was missing out of the third act? It just suddenly stopped making linear sense.

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                9 months ago

                They completely glossed over how Warlock changed sides n why, and everyone was just running and changing scenes at such a frenetic pace that poorly hid the missing connector scenes. Plus that one all out fight scene and then bang they’re somewhere else for some reason