So. I tried bitwarden for a while with 2fa. I absolutely did not realize that if you lose your 2fa you are done in that service. So yeah. Time to rebuild.

I’m attempting to go all in on proton stuff ATM. Drive, email, vpn and password manager.

What’s the easiest way to set everything up in a way that the whole system is safe and that minimizes the chance of me locking myself out ?

Stuff like. Do I bother with 2fa? What are yubikeys. Are these the answer? Do I 2fa all.accounts other than the protonmail one ?

Long single use case passwords or memorizable ones ?

Do I do throwaway emails or everything signs up to my main one ?

Sorry if I overloaded questions. But id love go get insight from people with more experience.

Edit. And oh. Threat model.

Id love yo not lose accounts if someone physically steals one of my devices.

I’d love to not get hsckdd online by someone random that is not targeting me specifically

And in broad strokes. I’d like to keep all my accounts as private as possible from private companies and governments. But im flexible on this one if its too much hassle.

  • haroldstork@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Right now I’m using Bitwarden as my primary password manager Before I switched, I had “all my eggs in one basket”, meaning my 2FA codes were stored alongside my passwords. This is a BAD practice. For one, Bitwarden offers 2FA to secure your account and storing this 2FA code in that very same Bitwarden account is very dumb because once you’re logged out… well… that’s it. Use a 2FA app on your phone. I highly recommend Raivo for managing your 2FA codes on iOS, not sure about Android. Using an app like this compounds your security because someone would have to have physical access to your device AND be able to access the codes on said device (Raivo offers takes pretty strong security measures) AND know your password/have access to your Bitwarden account. Raivo also offers you to export these codes in an encrypted zip file should you wish to back up to cloud storage or directly to your computer (depending on what OS your computer is, it might prove to be challenging moving this file from your phone) I hope this helps! Please ask me any questions if you have them. I’d be more than happy to answer them

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      1 year ago

      My personal opinion on totp is that it’s better to store them in bitwarden than to not use them at all, especially if your password is good and you’ve enforced two factor for registering a new device to bitwarden. It’s definitely not the best way, but a lot more people can be convinced to right click and paste in an otp code over authenticating to a device, a totp app, and manually typing it in.