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    I find myself largely in agreement with him.

    It seems you can now categorise environmentalists into two distinct groups:

    Group 1 prioritizes preservation over progress, insisting on halting all developmental projects to protect every speck of biodiversity. This includes everything from rare newt species to broader environmental concerns, which are used as reasons to oppose various forms of green energy initiatives such as battery factories, solar installations, wind and tidal turbines. The ironic consequence of this approach is that despite protecting individual species in the short term, long-term survival becomes more precarious as global warming accelerates unchecked.

    Group 2, which I personally identify with, holds a more pragmatic view. This group acknowledges the inevitable environmental impact of green technologies, such as harm to individual species and certain ecosystem disturbances. Yet, they firmly believe that without expediting the implementation of green technology, we risk compromising the planet’s overall sustainability.

    While I understand and appreciate the intent behind the preservationist approach, I feel frustrated. In my view, their well-meaning actions might inadvertently exacerbate the very environmental crises we’re striving to mitigate.

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        In your opinion, which you are entitled to hold.

        In my opinion it does go some way towards explaining it. I feel Starmer falls into Group 2 here and the outburst was directed towards members of Group 1.

        I’ve felt very much the same way myself and found myself saying things like “fuck newt lovers” when what I actually should be doing is explaining the above and advocating for members of Group 1 to join Group 2.

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      Seemed to me that Starmer falls in the “I don’t really believe there’s a climate catastrophe happening” camp.

      If he did, he wouldn’t say stuff like this or - more importantly - avoid adopting policies that require immediate action when he gets into power.

      “Tree huggers” = people who believe the climate catastrophe is an imminent existential crisis.

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        “Tree Huggers” to me is a short hand for Group 1 but that is subjective and either of us could be right.

        I think it is a big claim to say Starmer doesn’t believe in the climate catastrophe, we should probably have a bit more evidence before making such a claim.

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          The “evidence” is clearly that the Green Agenda isn’t at the top of Labour’s plans. I heard Starmer on LBC last week refusing to defend ULEZ and Sadiq Khan. I heard Starmer also telling young environmentalists in Gillingham when challenged about which side of the climate debate he was on, saying “the side of economic growth.” Two weeks ago, Starmer decided to u-turn on the Green Plan Labour had been developing.

          What more evidence do you need?

          If we do face an existential crisis then it means actually doing radical stuff. Postponing things until Rupert Murdoch or one of the other oligarchs tell us it’s ok, isn’t an option.

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            I heard Starmer on LBC last week refusing to defend ULEZ and Sadiq Khan.

            Dont forget that Khan has green lit the Silvertown tunnel, which will have massive negative environmental impact on the east of London