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What do you think of this statement? “8GB on an M3 MacBook Pro is probably analogous to 16GB on other systems. We just happen to be able to use it much more efficiently.” source
This is what people are missing. 8 GB of ram on the new silicone isn’t the same as 8 GB of ram on an Intel device. People wont understand this until they use a new M series machine.
I have an M2 16 GB MBA 15” with 512 and I edit 4K video in FCP with ease, and can export it in no time. I still giggle a little when I see how quick the estimated export time week be after I click export.
The only issue I’ve had with this laptop is that the Finder will freeze up. It does this when I’m working as well as when there isn’t a single program open. It’s strange but force quitting fixes it.
There was literally a post a few days ago where someone said the RAM in the base 2023 MacBook Pro was the same RAM in the base 2015 MacBook Pro. Not the same amount of RAM, they said they have the same RAM.
That’s the level of technical literacy the people complaining about this have—and I get why Apple doesn’t publicize the amount of RAM in the iPhones or iPads.
To be clear though, I do agree that the amount of RAM for the cost of the computer isn’t right, I’m not trying to defend Apple.
A bit misleading. 8GB compared to what version 16GB of RAM? DDR5, DDR 4, or DDR3. Apple themselves use LPDDR5 that produces 6,400 mhz with their M series CPUs.
From a power standpoint DDR5 is close enough to LPDDR5 to make that claim false. DDR4 and previous versions makes that claim true from a power standpoint, but Apple was using previous version when released in those years too. Nearly all 2023 released PC laptops are using DDR5 RAM chips.
Nah; I have currently both recent MacBook and windows sitting on my desk; and while the MacBook is smooth 90% of the time; it’s a bit sluggish with swap memory activated when having 8gb/256 Gb if I have about 7-10 tabs open (using the new 15 inch MacBook Air 2 that I bought for 1299). Base model M2 or M3 should not have any gigs of ram when they were charging over $1000 for laptops. It’s complete robbery and they’re also giving you a single Nand chip and to upgrade to a reasonably functional degree of computer, it will be another $400 and upgrade to get it to 16 GB and 512, which should be the base for 1200+ laptops. Unified memory on high res 15 inch models is shared between multiple aspects of the laptop, and it’s just shortsighted for them to say the average person doesn’t need it. Also they intentionally limit 16 GB variants from going on sale (I’d gladly fork over another 100 bucks for a 16gb variant but fuck 200 bucks more for 8 more gb of ram; that’s plain bullshit)
While I understand that people who are using these for work can write them taxes off, and those students can get $100 off, Apple is definitely taking advantage of the fact that their engineering department is amazing and their business team is trying to squeeze every dollar out of the people. I understand the apple premium prices, and love their products where there is limited customizability, such as the Apple AirPods Pro GEN one and two. But the bullshit they are pulling with the MacBooks has gone a little out of hand. They have learned from their phones that they can provide a base model, which has completely useless specs, and people will still pay for the upgrade. So they’re actuaries have suggested that they continue this stupid ass business model Over to the laptops so they can continue taking advantage of the customer.
Meanwhile Lenovo yoga 7i with 16gb/512gb with 1360p; I bought for 599, and also has a touch screen and is a 2-in-1; and an 2.5k display screen. With original price of 800 bucks; this is still completely wrecking apple in terms of base specks. I’ve had 0 slow downs with this computer and the hard drive is twice as fast at minimum.
I feel like Apple will never have market share because of these stupid practices. Which is sad because their silicon is amazing. Ultimately other people will catch up, or so is my hope so that apple can return back to earth
What do you think of this statement? “8GB on an M3 MacBook Pro is probably analogous to 16GB on other systems. We just happen to be able to use it much more efficiently.”
source
This is what people are missing. 8 GB of ram on the new silicone isn’t the same as 8 GB of ram on an Intel device. People wont understand this until they use a new M series machine.
I have an M2 16 GB MBA 15” with 512 and I edit 4K video in FCP with ease, and can export it in no time. I still giggle a little when I see how quick the estimated export time week be after I click export.
The only issue I’ve had with this laptop is that the Finder will freeze up. It does this when I’m working as well as when there isn’t a single program open. It’s strange but force quitting fixes it.
There was literally a post a few days ago where someone said the RAM in the base 2023 MacBook Pro was the same RAM in the base 2015 MacBook Pro. Not the same amount of RAM, they said they have the same RAM.
That’s the level of technical literacy the people complaining about this have—and I get why Apple doesn’t publicize the amount of RAM in the iPhones or iPads.
To be clear though, I do agree that the amount of RAM for the cost of the computer isn’t right, I’m not trying to defend Apple.
A bit misleading. 8GB compared to what version 16GB of RAM? DDR5, DDR 4, or DDR3. Apple themselves use LPDDR5 that produces 6,400 mhz with their M series CPUs.
From a power standpoint DDR5 is close enough to LPDDR5 to make that claim false. DDR4 and previous versions makes that claim true from a power standpoint, but Apple was using previous version when released in those years too. Nearly all 2023 released PC laptops are using DDR5 RAM chips.
The only people who care and are complaining are the people that are never going to buy it anyway.
And you are the typical fanboy who believes everything apple says without questioning it. Instead you just say shut up and take my money
Nah; I have currently both recent MacBook and windows sitting on my desk; and while the MacBook is smooth 90% of the time; it’s a bit sluggish with swap memory activated when having 8gb/256 Gb if I have about 7-10 tabs open (using the new 15 inch MacBook Air 2 that I bought for 1299). Base model M2 or M3 should not have any gigs of ram when they were charging over $1000 for laptops. It’s complete robbery and they’re also giving you a single Nand chip and to upgrade to a reasonably functional degree of computer, it will be another $400 and upgrade to get it to 16 GB and 512, which should be the base for 1200+ laptops. Unified memory on high res 15 inch models is shared between multiple aspects of the laptop, and it’s just shortsighted for them to say the average person doesn’t need it. Also they intentionally limit 16 GB variants from going on sale (I’d gladly fork over another 100 bucks for a 16gb variant but fuck 200 bucks more for 8 more gb of ram; that’s plain bullshit)
While I understand that people who are using these for work can write them taxes off, and those students can get $100 off, Apple is definitely taking advantage of the fact that their engineering department is amazing and their business team is trying to squeeze every dollar out of the people. I understand the apple premium prices, and love their products where there is limited customizability, such as the Apple AirPods Pro GEN one and two. But the bullshit they are pulling with the MacBooks has gone a little out of hand. They have learned from their phones that they can provide a base model, which has completely useless specs, and people will still pay for the upgrade. So they’re actuaries have suggested that they continue this stupid ass business model Over to the laptops so they can continue taking advantage of the customer.
Meanwhile Lenovo yoga 7i with 16gb/512gb with 1360p; I bought for 599, and also has a touch screen and is a 2-in-1; and an 2.5k display screen. With original price of 800 bucks; this is still completely wrecking apple in terms of base specks. I’ve had 0 slow downs with this computer and the hard drive is twice as fast at minimum.
I feel like Apple will never have market share because of these stupid practices. Which is sad because their silicon is amazing. Ultimately other people will catch up, or so is my hope so that apple can return back to earth