More than 20 percent of Republicans surveyed said certain criminal charges against former President Trump have made them more likely to support him in the 2024 election, according to a new Ipsos poll released Thursday.

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    I wouldn’t go around and start claiming any group “lacks qualities to make them human”. Dehumanizing people doesn’t work out well, ever.

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      Okay but can you imagine how morally a person must be who excuses every crime committed by Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump?

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        Are they shitty human beings? Sure. Despicable, corrupt, hypocritical and damaging human beings. Absolutely they are, but they’re still people. They might try to dehumanize democrats and liberals and I push back at that point as well. I don’t believe dehumanizing anyone, regardless of whatever they have done. People are capable of a wide set of behaviors and that has to be reconciled. Anyone is capable of becoming a monster, and throughout history anytime you start to dehumanize a group, you open the door for everyday people to become monsters. For me personally, I can’t claim to be morally or ethically superior to these terrible people if I’m not better than they are, by not painting them as subhuman.

        Most of the population is moderate and so painting this massive group as things that shouldn’t be is dangerous. It’s never worked out for anyone well when that basic, knee jerk reaction happens.

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      Until they prove otherwise, I will not view them as worthy of any respect or recognition that I would give a normal person.

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        You should give everyone respect and dignity, even if they don’t. You don’t have to accept their views or be nice to them but they deserve the same basic respect and dignity any human being does. Painting this picture of a group of people being beneath your group has historically not worked out in terrible ways. It’s not a good or healthy response to political discourse and doing what they’re doing has never been a valid justification. If you want to act like they do, then I’m not sure why you wouldn’t be with them.

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          Respect is not something to be freely given, but earned. That is something that I and many others have been taught, and have learned through experience. Dignity can be given, but when you abandon your own dignity you will find others who will not provide it to you.

          You seem to exercise the paradox of tolerance. I cannot and will not tolerate the intolerant.