“Stateful updates? In this economy?” - some NixOS user
just set up a cron job to upgrade your system every 5 minutes
I borked my caxhyOS install yesterday with a sudo pacman -Syu…
Took me about 5 min to fix restoring one of the snapshots in the bootloader
with rolling release comes rolling responsibility
Just install pamac, it can update every time you shut down. I don’t mind it updating every day if I don’t have to babysit it.
A related thing I’ve done is I’ve made it so pacman can’t run outside of Tmux. At least not in that shell profile. One of the reasons is I got so fed up with Ubuntu server that I decided I’d experiment with a few servers being Arch. Some might consider that crazy but it’s what experiments are for.
I can’t afford to have an ssh disconnect break a system and forcing Tmux prevents me from doing something lazy. Side benefit… it also means it’s easier to not babysit it.
I will take a look at this, thanks
I’d also recommend timeshift for recovery from bad updates, if you aren’t already.
That’s nothing compared to rolling release atomic distributions. I use secureblue, and every time I do a rpm-ostree upgrade I have a 1-2GB update D:
That’ll be three gigs to download hut we will give you 200 megs of free space back, as far as what’s changed? We’ve further optimized the system for you and you can enjoy using it as before ie more better but nothing you’ll notice.
I understand why but updates that do nothing but keep you up to date are annoying for the user.
Cuz they are need user to attend
5 minutes?
How does one go so long between updates?
That’s my secret; I’m always updating.
My computer is so old and shitty that it starts lagging if I use it while it’s updating so I have to choose when to let it do so. So I’m forced to wait till I’m done using it.
What distro?
Thanks for reminding me!
> yay
If arch is so hard why are all their users so joyous going yay all the time?
This is not even a meme. I updated my laptop yesterday and here I am doing yet another upgrade with 400mb+ dl size.
I was trawling through Octopi and saw an update notifier. Thought it was neat. Now I won’t have to update if there’s no updates, I thought.
I removed it after a day. I could have set it to only look once a day, but realised that if I just update as part of what I do before I shutdown then I basically got the same effect, without being actually notified of anything. I don’t think there’s ever been a time where I ran an update and it said “nah nothing to do 👍”
I literally completed an update the other day and by the time it was done there were new updates. The update notification is useless, lol.
✊ The struggle is real
Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, archlinux?
Does it come with literature?
Debian does! :3
No, just a wiki
Depends. How many virigns in heaven do I get?
Only one, and it’s you.
That’s it. In that case, screw Arch. I’m going with Gentoo.
Zero, but you’ll love the uniform
I did some research. Is this an apt representation of what I can expect? If it is, I’m in!
That’s it exactly. Welcome to the club.
mfw arch users are more likely to be virgins than monks.
Net upgrade size should be in the negatives
Do it weekly then.
This is all fine as long as you are not on a throttled connection. I read an blog post a couple of years ago in which the author switched from Arch to Debian for a longer offgrid vacation for this exact reason.
Just don’t update
Updating your software is the most important action one can take for cyber security, so no. That is not an option.
Also the update can fail if you wait too long (mostly GPG keys, which can be fixed)
I mean you’ll be fine off grid for a couple months
Not with the arch, i broke several arch installations by being off grid for 2-3 months
Calm down. All updates are not security updates. People can read change logs before deciding to update.
Does anybody read all the changelogs? There are hundreds of updates every time I run things.
I heard you like updates. Have you tried Gentoo yet?
