• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    3 days ago

    I remember the referendum to join EU in Poland (yes, I’m that old). The funniest thing is that the main argument of the anti-EU camp was that Germans will buy out all the land in Poland.

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      Which would have been the right strategy. Why buy devaluating US government bonds when you can buy land in a growing economy?

      There must have been a deal. Otherwise it would have been foolish to join.

  • verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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    Everyone saying “how the turntables” should likely check the EU budget and how Poland’s annual budget has yearly windfalls at the tune of 3-4% of their budget in EU net receipts. Poland has been pushed insanely since accession and has benefitted greatly from the i lux of cheap labour from Ukraine, which they rushed to hate as soon as it wasn’t as profitable anymore…

    The poles should also be wary of jingoism and avoid being the ones holding the bag when said US and German companies reveal themselves to be toxic assets.

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    Could it be that polish strict immigration laws have helped the country avoid many of the problems other countries have? I am also under the impression that polish people are hard workers, and that duties of the community are more important than individual rights for many people.🤔

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      Have you heard about war in Ukraine? 700k of Ukrainians migrated to Poland. That’s 70% of all immigrants working in Poland.

      This is not because of strict immigration laws. Poland got extremely lucky and got a huge injection of cheap labor from culturally similar country (so tolerable to right wing voters) right as the economy was starting to falter.

      The “strict immigration laws” was a smoke screen for racist voters. The government was only opposing EU’s immigration policy while heavily relying on immigrants to grow its economy.

      Now, let’s look at other countries. The second big country with fastest growing economy is Spain which has a left wing government now and is the most pro-immigration country in EU right now. Slowest growth? Italy with right wing, anti immigration government.

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        3 days ago

        Good point :) Thanks for a thorough answer.

        I think immigrants are a good thing, it helps diversity which again makes for a better, broader society. People who choose to go to a country of free will, that is a good thing - people that flee from a country because they have to get away from their own, isn’t.

        Are people from Ukraine and Poland a like? (Like t.ex Norwegians, Swedes and Danes)